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    Default Re: General discussion for off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Quote Originally Posted by Mad-Alex View Post
    Admin, can you delete this thread please? There is another one completely the same thread for this vehicle on this board, so in my opinion this one should be deleted, to keep this board clean from "dead threads". Thx.
    i originally started this thread in the general discussion area but for some reason it got moved to community showroom.
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    Default Re: General discussion for off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Well yes because it's not your forum to talk about your cars, the general is for BeamNG not for the showing of cars you're making. Also you should keep the comments and feedback(if thats what you were doing) in one thread. I wouldn't mind, but now we got a bumped up thread.

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    Default Re: Off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamil_ View Post
    America = continent, United states = country. Although I was meaning USA, I didn't know Canadians say trucks too
    Umm, I do believe that infact the vast majority of countries would either call that a truck, or a utility vehicle, or somewhere within that vicinity depending on their spoken language. I am English I would distinguish it as a truck. As would my fiancee who is Austrian.

    And dare I say, although a little offtopic... Your comments are all over the damn forum like a rash. :P You may wish to calm it down a tad. I have noticed a few people do it in the past, and someone will eventually get annoyed with you for it. I'm not personally complaining, its Just a heads up that's all

    I am rather surprised the likes of 'Hati' Or some other prominent figure like him, that like to keep the forum in check with abrasive but valid messages have not already put their foot down on it. Seems they may have taken a break lol
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    Default Re: Off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Ok.




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    Default Re: Off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    I'm Canadian and I would call that a 'Trophy Truck'.
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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Posts got merged, and now its like "whoa"

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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    That is f-ing awesome

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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    HOOLLLYYY SSSHHHHIIITTTT
    bad news
    -my computer crashed and for some reason every single file on my computer decided to say go fuck yourself and left.
    i had to re-install my os and all of my shit like 3ds max and stuff.
    basically it means that 120 plus hours of work into a trophy truck just went through the pooper and now i have to start all over again.
    basically i got up to 150k poly's on the new cover which looked a lot like the chevrolet silverado trophy truck.
    all i needed were textures, materials, and animations. but thats all gone now and now i have to start from scratch again. (luckily i still have the drawings and blue prints)
    i guess ill start with the roll cage first and update on how things are going.
    this fucking sucks man.

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    but don't think i'm saying "fuck it i'm done" i'm still building this truck if it kills me.
    luckily i have designed everything on paper and resolved almost all of the problems so it shouldn't take me nearly as long as the first attempt.
    (probably 20 to 30 hours)
    wish me luck
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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Man that sucks. 150k polys is way too much though... The body itself should probably be under or around 10k(my Cadillac is much less than that I think)
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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Quote Originally Posted by Mythbuster View Post
    Man that sucks. 150k polys is way too much though... The body itself should probably be under or around 10k(my Cadillac is much less than that I think)
    i like my cars to look surreal.
    i don't want to be able to see the poly's when i zoom into a curve or something like that.
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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonskull View Post
    i like my cars to look surreal.
    i don't want to be able to see the poly's when i zoom into a curve or something like that.

    You won't see the polygons if you spend 15k on the body, not even if you spend half of that... Honestly, trust me, I've been making cars for 7 years now, I'm not just making it up. Look at some pictures in my Cadillac thread, even when you zoom in pretty far I don't think there's any part of the bodywork where you can see the polygons. With all bodypanels that have paint on them selected, it has just over 6300 polygons... Including all the chrome detailing (trim and lights and such), 17.000. Including engine/chassis and interior, around 35.000... Even if it would be for the whole car, 150k would already be insanely much, let alone if it's just for a fiberglass bodyshell in which half of it's detailing is done solely with decals in the real world...

    I can tell even from your WIP low-poly pictures that you could massively improve how you manage your polygons, and that's just with the low poly mesh you had there, let alone when you'd be using 150.000 of them...

    EDIT@Below: I'm not trying to insult your work btw, just trying to give you some advise so you can improve, you know . It's always better to start as low poly as you can, and then add detail later on, as it's much easier to add polygons than to remove em(Once you've made something high poly it's hard to get yourself to make it lower poly...).
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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Quote Originally Posted by Mythbuster View Post
    You won't see the polygons if you spend 15k on the body, not even if you spend half of that... Honestly, trust me, I've been making cars for 7 years now, I'm not just making it up. Look at some pictures in my Cadillac thread, even when you zoom in pretty far I don't think there's any part of the bodywork where you can see the polygons. With all bodypanels that have paint on them selected, it has just over 6300 polygons... Including all the chrome detailing (trim and lights and such), 17.000. Including engine/chassis and interior, around 35.000... Even if it would be for the whole car, 150k would already be insanely much, let alone if it's just for a fiberglass bodyshell in which half of it's detailing is done solely with decals in the real world...

    I can tell even from your WIP low-poly pictures that you could massively improve how you manage your polygons, and that's just with the low poly mesh you had there, let alone when you'd be using 150.000 of them...
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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Also, high polygon counts bring a new performance concern in BeamNG not present in other games. The actual mapping of vertices to the physical skeleton is quite CPU intensive, so the less, the better.

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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Quote Originally Posted by gabester View Post
    Also, high polygon counts bring a new performance concern in BeamNG not present in other games. The actual mapping of vertices to the physical skeleton is quite CPU intensive, so the less, the better.
    what would the ideal polycount be.

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    wait a minute. skeleton?

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    also good news on the roll cage.
    it's almost done. i just have some "overlapping" issues to resolve.
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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    got some work done today Click image for larger version. 

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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Quote Originally Posted by crimsonskull View Post
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    The tubes are way too fat and messy.

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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis-W View Post
    The tubes are way too fat and messy.
    Thats what she said.
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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis-W View Post
    The tubes are way too fat and messy.
    thank you for your criticism. now i can improve upon my design for the greater benefit of the community.
    about the tubing though, the truck is a tad bit smaller than the d15 (which is the size of a f150 or silverado) the tubing looks right to me. and don't worry i'll clean it up.
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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    He could have put the criticism in a nicer way, but he's right. The tubes look very thick to me too. What's the diameter?

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    Default Re: off road race vehicle: Ensenada Tormenta

    Quote Originally Posted by Miura View Post
    He could have put the criticism in a nicer way, but he's right. The tubes look very thick to me too. What's the diameter?
    about 2 and 7/8 inch chromoly tubing
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