Now that we know that the game will be on the Torque3D engine I want to ask how will particles and sound be handled. If I am to be completely honest most games have ridiculous over the top and repetitive sound effects for crashes, it's either a lot of glass being smashed or a dull metallic sound. In real life, crashes most of the time sound like a large bang, yet no game that I've played has ever managed to do this well and I feel that it would really give a much better impression of a large collision than just stock sound effects. Hopefully you're focusing for this anyway, but I though it would just be a nice thing to mention, if you watch any car crashes on YouTube from the interior of a car, it definitely sounds more like a bang. Whereas externally there is more of a crunching metal/breaking glass sound, which is usually the lights smashing or a wing mirror breaking. Basically my question here is will the sounds be dynamic relative to the collision? (ie will there be a breaking glass sound when a car is lightly shunted, simulating light breakage) Another thing I wanted to bring up was the debris. In an accident there is always a lot of debris to be found on scene, shards of metal, glass fragments etc. Of course, it would be very impractical for every part of the car to be simulated in real time, we're not quite there yet. I hate to use Rigs of Rods as an example because it has nothing to do with this, regardless as you can see in this image here: Debris has been scattered across the road including chipped parts of bodywork and engine, ripped pieces of plastic and so forth. But the thing that I felt was needed quite badly in RoR was the fact that there was very little particle effects or debris; in a collision only detectable parts would be thrown about and there were no particles emitted for the breaking glass + scratching paint etc. Particles could be used to simulate more debris than there actually is present in the car models and a certain amount of glass and metal fragments could stay on the ground in-game where the emitted particles passed through the ground or something similar. Crashes should feel a lot more realistic and have a large impact, which could be further amplified by using some of these systems in game, whilst still focussing sorely on realism, of course Now sound is a must so I am sure it will be implemented in some form, but I was wondering what plans you had for particle effects and stuff of that nature. Sorry for the long post
I totally agree with this. One thing that RoR missed was lots of pieces of plastic, glass and shards of other materials scattered around the floor. These don't necessarily have to be 'colidable' objects. You had a crash in RoR but it just didn't feel like a proper crash without all of the particles flying around. Would also be cool if you lost traction when you ran over this debris.
I agree with the OP & Hati. Although the amount of particles released should be carefully related to the Force of the crash. I don't want to bump a car & have hundreds of particles flying around Also, a rough calculated direction & force with which debris are thrown should be taken, relative to where & at which direction & force the crash happened. Example: Hitting a car head-on into a wall shouldn't made debris fall out from the middle or end of the car, just the front of the car & not too much scattered. Sound also should be implemented globally. (Custom engine & horn sounds are ok, just no custom crash sounds) Also, maybe no custom collision sounds, like in RoR? Because some of them just sounded unrealistic & some were too loud, & those just made it irritating.
Bump. +1 Would like to see this In Game, since I found this thread, no need to start a new one right? Any devs like to collaborate on this a little?
http://www.beamng.com/threads/638-Particle-generation I was asking the same thing there. Particle that spawns off from cars and the environment would add a lot to a game such as this.
Not to be pushy, but I think a new video with some awesome burnout sounds, wrecking and crashing noises would be pretty baws. You guys are great.
