General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. General S'mores

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    Here's an interesting Russian vehicle - the Moskvitch 410N (also known as 410H).

    It's essentially a 4x4 variant of one of Moskvitch' sedans, like the AMC Eagle Sedan, but just older, and produced with different uses in mind.
     
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  2. Alex_Farmer557

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    Same with the gaz m72, which was a 4wd m20 pobeda
     
  3. aljowen

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    I know it's a Ford, but does anyone know what car this is?
    IMG_20190531_135240.jpg

    Edit: nvm, found it, apparently its a Ford Probe

    More interestingly, there are only 400 of them registered in the UK.
     
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  8. redrobin

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    This is why an electric car will never be cool.
     
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  9. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Because you can just quietly ramble on down a highway through hundreds of kilometres?


    I decided to make a little analysis of the car price and type distribution of my metropolitan area (Puławy metro area - 10 km radius) after a search around OLX.

    The cheapest sort of car you can get will cost you 800 PLN (~$200). It is a 3rd gen Opel Corsa without its drivetrain. Then we have the 1000-1500 PLN (~$250-400) stuff - 90s compacts (e.g. Astra), economy cars (Lanos, Matiz).

    The bottom 10th percentile line is 4500 PLN (~$1200). It usually gets people a small car from the early-to-mid 00s - Renault Clio, Fiat Punto, Opel Corsa... all with an engine around 1.2 or 1.4 litres.

    The bottom 20th percentile is around 7500 PLN (~$2000). This tends to get you a mid-00s compact hatch or wagon with an engine around 1.6 litres - a Peugeot 307, Renault Megane, Opel Astra... Maybe an earlier midsizer, like a Ford Mondeo or VW Passat, or a compact minivan like a Renault Scenic.

    The median falls around 15k PLN (~$4000). A typical car for that money is a mid-to-late 00s compact minivan with a diesel engine around 1.6 or 2.0 litres - Citroen C4 Picasso, VW Touran, Ford C-Max... Sometimes, people buy wagons like a mid-00s Audi A4 or Volvo V70, and in the suburban/rural areas, you might find early 00s SUVs - Honda CR-V, Mitsubishi Pajero...

    20th top percentile is around 25k PLN (~$6500). People tend to get a late 00s/early 10s crossover or sedan/wagon, usually crossover, as they live in the suburbs or exurbs. The crossover can be compact (e.g. Nissan Qashqai), midsize (e.g. Mitsubishi Outlander) or fullsize (e.g. BMW X5), usually midsize, while the sedan/wagon tends to be a German luxury fullsize (e.g. Audi A6, BMW 5-Series), with some selection of less fancy ones (e.g. Insignia, V70).

    10th top percentile is around 36k PLN (~$9500). Mainly like the above, but the cars will be newer and/or in better condition.

    The most expensive thing I found was a BMW X6 for 270k (~$70k). Then you have some stuff in the mid-100s, mainly German luxury cars (E-Class, X3, A6, etc.).

    Funnily enough, while the numbers up to the median are similar to the Polish ones, the Polish top 20th is ~50k, and the top 10th is ~90k, making the Puławy metro area quite egalitarian. We also tend to go for more practical stuff, as the usual Polish choice is a midsize sedan/wagon of different ages, not smaller/more spacious cars like in my town.

    We're a metro area of egalitarian shoppers who don't want much of a flashy car, but like the bang for the buck of French and Swedish cars.
     
  10. redrobin

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    No.
     
  11. aljowen

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    I like driving, but there is something to be said for the chauffeur experience. The idea of being able to chill and listen to some music while watching the world silently go by sounds quite appealing. Similar to how the quiet cabins on the LNER train line are great, since its quiet, comfy and the watching the fields and towns go by is really genuinely nice.
    That said, I do still like driving, so I want that option there.
    Its a bit like pizza, its really lovely, and it makes me happy to have it frequently, but I'm not sure I want it for every meal.
     
  12. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Same for me.

    There are roads not worth driving, but there damn sure are roads worth driving.
     
  13. redrobin

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    Every road is worth driving, you just have to change your driving style.
     
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    But in truth that wasn't my point, I love mountain biking, but I don't do it every day, that would be super fatiguing. So even if every road is worth driving, not every journey may be.
     
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    That one is blast the latest popular pop artist and make a game of cutting people off.
     
  16. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    Sorry, but I'm with redrobin on this one. A silent car will never be cool and fake piped-in noises don't count either.
     
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  17. aljowen

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    Whether its cool or not is besides the point. A Countach is a cool car, but there are journeys I would rather not take in one.
     
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  18. MotherTrucker02

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    This is the only cool electric car I've seen, and most of its coolness comes from Jonathan Ward waving his magic wand over it.
     
  19. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    You couldn't say the same for me, but that may just be because I'm very experienced in the art of struggling suitcases into front passenger seats.
     
  20. aljowen

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    Just to be clear though, if anyone does have a Countach that they need taking from one place to another, I'm sure could make space in my diary for that :p
     
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