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1963 Gavril Bluebuck

Discussion in 'Official Content' started by gabester, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. ktheminecraftfan

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    I found out that the roof is a separate part to the 3d model, Means making a convertible might not be that hard.
     
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  2. Kasir

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    I would like '64 and '65 versions but maybe in like 5 years when the car needs an update because I personally feel that the devs are a little heavy-handed with Gavril stuff (with more coming in 0.19), so a lot of the other brands seem neglected in a way, but that's just me.
     
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  3. Bastien2034

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    I hope that they gonna add a cadillac four note horn, with this car thats may be so cool.
     
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  4. ClaudeSpeedGamer01

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    I just had an idea; what if you made a different generation of the Bluebuck just like you did with the Pessima. I thought about design cues from the 1959-1961 Chevrolet Impala/Bel Air, with the bubbletop roof, oversized tailfins, and oddly shaped taillamps.
     
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  5. combatwombat96

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    that wasn't chevrolet, they never had true fins. I think it would be more fitting if the pre facelift (99.9 % not gonna happen) was based off a '60 Ford/Lincoln with some other styling cues from different cars of the late '50s/'60s, though I do like the idea of more fastback like roof instead of this horrible Ford like "boxtop" roofline and some proper tail lights, not those puny little things on the rear end, they just look every kind of wrong on the Bluebuck. Same can be said about the dashboard, although its period correct, it just doesn't represent space age well enough at all, take a look a any '61-'64 Ford, Plymouth, Mercury, Chrysler... etc you get it, anything that isn't general motors
     
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  6. ClaudeSpeedGamer01

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    I must have gotten my GM's mixed up. I agree that the car (if it has even the slightest chance of being developed which I also agree probably won't) would look good with design cues from Fords made in the late 1950's.
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    True. Those were good examples. It could do well with a touch of Chrysler's interior designs at the time.
     
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    I neeeeeeeeeeed this so badly. A 1958 or 1959 model (when the x-frame was introduced) with fins and wild '50s rooflines and chrome would be perfect

    Chevrolet absolutely had "true" fins. In 1957 they were traditional vertical blade fins and in 1959 they were dramatic horizontal "wing' type fins. 1955, 1956, and 1958 had modest fin sizes and 1960's were squared off versions of the 1959 design.
     
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  8. combatwombat96

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    the '57s had little fishtails and '59-'60 weren't really "traditional" fins either and although they maybe dramatic, they were quite dangerous as they tend lift the rear end off the ground past a 100mph (not that one would ever get to that speed even with the big engine). Quite the opposite of what true tailfins did. Also the '58s had none, it was ditched in favour of more sculpted rear body work
     
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  9. RedHorizon

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    1.) The Bel Air's tailfins are the first to come to mind whenever "tailfins" are even mentioned - maybe not as pronounced as Dodge's for example, but true tailfins nonetheless.

    2.) My great uncle (a Cadillac salesmen from 1954 - 1980) claimed to have regularly hit 113mph in his '58 Pontiac Chieftain (sans tailfins by that year) on his morning commute.
     
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  10. combatwombat96

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    fair call, for some reason it is one of the most recognise fifties out there

    A: that's not a Chevrolet, B: older speedos are often way out of wack, sometimes showing to fast or to slow. Take my car for instance, while cruising at 40 it would show as 60-5 kmh , then once the right foot is extended and the speedo reaches a 100, it would be dead right but as soon as the speed keeps picking it would start showing wildly optimistic numbers when really your not going that fast at all. So if your great uncles Pontiac had even the slightest "mis-alignment" of the speedo like my car, just think how wrong It could be
     
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  11. RedHorizon

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    The Pontiac Chieftain was basically a rebadged Bel Air - same chassis both GM. It wasn't just the car's speedo, that's the speed he was ticketed for, lol
     
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  12. combatwombat96

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    hmm interesting, he must 'ave had a tall final drive and was going downhill, as most of GMs car had a fair bit of trouble getting even 100mph. Oh well lucky he's lived to tell the tale then, as even at 80mph those things were downright terrifying, as they had no brakes, no proper suspension and certainly no steering with something better than 5 turns lock to lock
     
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  13. RedHorizon

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    It was a very long and straight downhill stretch somewhere outside of L.A., he said it actually handled the speed fairly well in the early morning but would overheat pretty quickly in the daytime and later developed pretty serious engine issues. Although I believe "handling the speed pretty well" is highly objective considering '50s autos usually handle like shit under ideal circumstances.
     
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    i know what you're talking about. My grandpa used to race in the 50s with a Fiat 1400 (1.4 tuned i4, 60 HP), during the mille miglia he used to hit 145 km/h in a straight bit of road just outside of Bologna. i drove a restored 1400 a few years ago and it was terryfing at 90 km/h...
    Anyways a 57-61 bluebuck, since i find that it resembles a Chrysler product, would have Exner tail fins, like a 1957 Desoto or a 1959 Chrysler NewYorker.
     
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  15. combatwombat96

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    well I guess for the time it would've handled the speed fairly well according to your great uncle, besides gm just made good solid working mans cars back then, performance wasn't the biggest deal to them so 100mph is a very big achievement for any of their products let alone sustaining 90 for a period of time. Every one knew that if you wanted a fast car you would go with Ford or Plymouth or Studebaker. Oh did you your uncle ever buy a new Cadillac ?, as it would pretty disheartening to be selling America's finest cars yet be stuck with mid level makes and what not
     
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  16. RedHorizon

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    He actually did finally buy a Cadillac in the early 70's, although he was certainly more of a Chevy guy - he owned a couple C1/C2 Corvettes (that I know of) and several upper-trim Chevrolet sedans and muscle cars throughout the 60's. When he passed away (recently) he owned that '72 Coupe DeVille, an '80-something El Camino with a 454, and a '92 GMC Sonoma; all three had less than 50,000 miles as of 2018.
     
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  17. combatwombat96

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    well that's nice, and hey he certainly had thing for performance. Haven't we all got one of those relatives had all those cool ones way back in the past, oh and my condolences for the loss
     
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  18. ktheminecraftfan

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    I wonder if anyone has thought of making a 1964 Bluebuck mod.
     
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  19. combatwombat96

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    The Bluebucks production is also in 1964, I would suggest some kind of 1961-62 model pre facelift parts. Take the taillights and dashboard from a '64 Galaxie and the roofline from a '60 Starliner then you'd have a damned good lookin' car

     
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  20. Nathan24™

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    (posting this in here because I got blocked from replying to the Update Speculation thread)

    I just realized that the Bluebuck and all the other Gavril vehicles have an "Army Green" paint option. Could that perhaps be a potential hint that there will be a military staff car config? I would really like to see one in-game and would go great with the Gavril D-series LTRV Marauder:


    Here's proof of the paint color in-game:
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    Here are some other examples:
    screenshot_2020-05-08_10-25-32.png screenshot_2020-05-08_10-26-53.png screenshot_2020-05-08_10-27-19.png
     
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