General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. MrAnnoyingDude

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    Yaris Cross? Where's the creativity?
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    Well, I have a more academic interest in cars,so I am interested in any sort.

    Maybe even more in the popular models, as they leave a bigger impact on society.
     
  2. Harkin Gaming

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    I know the lawsuit is only for the automated manual/DCT cars, but I also know someone who had transmission problems with their manual Fiesta. Considering that Ford just lost a sizable lawsuit for their "automatics" and what I have heard about my friend's manual car, I would stay away from both of Ford's small cars of that era.
     
  3. General S'mores

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    Guess they couldn't bother to deviate the Yaris name so they just went the easy way out.
     
  4. MrAnnoyingDude

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  5. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Considering the reputation they have everywhere else, they either got a lemon - which is always possible with the very best of designs from the very best of factories - or with the reputation of that side of the pond, abused it. We race those transmissions and abuse them to fuckery, they are not a fundamentally flawed design by any means.
     
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  6. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    I am absolutely going to get stuck with an automatic unless I take a Chevy Spark or a Chevy S10 with the crummy 2.2L. Every single "manual" I find listed turns out to be an auto once you look at the photos, including the 2018 Fiesta I'm about to drive. And I'm under a major time crunch because I've been driving around in a borrowed car whose owner is now going stir-crazy without it. Heck this!
     
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  7. 95Crash

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    Hopefully, I'll be able to drive eventually so I can find out if an automatic or a manual car is better. In general, do you hate automatics?

    Also, if you do wanna rant about climate change stuff, this might be a good thread for it.
    https://www.beamng.com/threads/general-discussion.7384/page-1997
     
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  8. Harkin Gaming

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    Probably a lemon then. I don't think it is too uncommon of a problem though and the cars over in America might use different parts in their transmissions.
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    That Neon looks really nice.
     
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  9. SuperchargedAndSavage!

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    ikr, and its a manual.
     
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  10. Harkin Gaming

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    I have considered getting an SRT-4 shell and a working PT-Cruiser GT to combine into a fast beater once I get a place to work on and store projects.
     
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  11. SuperchargedAndSavage!

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    @Harkin Labs Gaming I just realized, the 2001 Regal I posted was supercharged. Is your 1999 one supercharged?
     
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  12. PriusRepellent

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    One random thought I just had... what would happen if an engine's cylinders were not all the same size? I'm going to guess some serious balancing issues at the very least lol.
     
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  13. Harkin Gaming

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    Unfortunately it isn't. It had a plastic upper intake manifold before I tore half the engine down. It was warped beyond repair, so I got an aluminum upper intake off of a Series III 3800 that will go on once I am able to work on my car again. The intake manifold inlet almost intersects with the exhaust tube that connects the front and rear manifolds, so maybe I can turbo it in the far future.
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    *rattling intensifies*
     
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  14. vmlinuz

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    I would not at all mind driving a Cherrier Vivace in real life, even a low-end one. (I imagine that in the US, the base model would simply be the European 110 fitted with the 1.6-liter I4 and a DCT. The I3 is underpowered and no American would buy it)
     
  15. Potato

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    Ford just recently reached a $30 million settlement in the lawsuit regarding the "Power Shift" DPS6 transmission which affected Fiestas and Focuses built between 2011 and 2016. Ford also revealed that they had already spent $47 million on buybacks.
    The DPS6 has been the only automatic transmission offered in Fiestas and Focuses in the US since 2012, as far as I can tell. It is a shitty transmission that seems to be inherently flawed. They are plagued with drivability and reliability issues.
    I've driven many 2016-2020 DPS6 Fiestas and Focuses. The transmission is clunky and harsh.
     
  16. MotherTrucker02

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    I've always thought it odd that so many people advocate for self driving cars when public transit is a much easier and in many ways better solution to traffic in problems urban areas. I have a feeling that it is mainly due to the fact that people are self centered and want to run on their own schedule. Not like either is going to affect me since I always have and likely always will live in a rural area, but the few times I go to cities it sure would be nice to not have to wear out my left leg driving in traffic.

    I hate that, I usually sort by manual only and all these slush-boxes show up and ruin my day.
     
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  17. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    I'm contacting the owner of that Neon, but the ad has been up for 28 days so I'm not holding out much hope for it to be A. still available or B. any good.

    I test drove a 2018 Ford Fiesta sedan automatic (mis-listed as manual) and a 2016 Hyundai Elantra (actually a manual) today, desperately wanting to like either one but not being able to. The Fiesta is very smooth when you're in auto mode and driving like a grandma, but manual mode comes off as derpy and difficult to use, and you can definitely tell it's an automatized manual when you hit the gas in auto, as the kickdown response is basically instant but it clutches and downshifts with such sloth-like laziness that it actually comes off slower than a regular automatic. The Elantra has enough power to bark the tires on a hot 1-2 upshift, which brings back fond memories of my Sunbird, but then about a second after you do that, the traction control, despite being turned off, suddenly realizes that you spun the tires and cuts your power for a second. Think it also did it on a 2-3 at one point, and only does it when you're accelerating from a dead stop. Is that a derpy computer, or an engine problem? The shifter also feels rubbery and a little balky with the gears miles apart. How is that every ancient, rusted-out economy car I've ever driven has a better clutch and shifter than most new cars?
     
  18. Harkin Gaming

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    They are trying to make people forget about how good manuals are so they can stop selling them. They want to force people into automatics so they can build less variants of cars which is cheaper, and maybe they think it will make it easier to transition into electric cars?
     
  19. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    Neon owner is way overpriced but the car is still there, says he's "not in a hurry to sell it", probably going to check it out Sunday or Monday, thank you @SuperchargedAndSavage!
     
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