Update Speculation thread

well there is one way to get ashore with a boat, you just need the Moonhawk landboat

 

Didn't think about that

 

The moonhawk really needs a revamp. The performance editions feel so terrible to drive, like slicing open a rusty aluminum can filled with melted chocolate with a dremel.

 

What are you talking about ? the standard model (my own custom one with crossply tires, stock suspension and emission controls mounted to a 358 V8) is the most stable, neutral, smoothest car I've ever driven and the sport models are an absolute dream with a hint of eversteer with application of the throttle, firm ride that hardly bottoms out providing a crisp, solid and overall feeling very well "grounded", oh and the steering is very quick without any play that most recirculating ball systems have, so quick in fact that most newcomers will often turn to much resulting in an unenjoyable experience. However in the right hands the sporty 378 Moonhawk is a very fast car

(just saw what I was writing and maybe I should make a huge thread with me road testing and track testing all the old cars and posting what specs they have, the value for money thing and if this car is utter shit or not... you know... like what magazines used to do back in the pre nineties

 

Put a 5 speed manual on the V8 special. It's now comparable to the Barstow Kingsnake.

 

What? The v8 sport model is an anemic pile of sludge. The steering is certainly numb on this model, sloshing around the corner when you yank the wheel. Hit the brakes and you'll somehow come to a stop, all the while the body leans like Michael Jackson. Stomp on the pedal and you'll eventually climb to 80, but god forbid you have to turn or stop in any capacity and you'll lose that speed instantly. Higher-performance models like the "track" edition are nothing short of purveyors when it comes to wheelspin and snap oversteer. I'll admit that the steering and brakes improve monumentally here, but most of the time you'll never get to experience that because you're too busy spinning out...

 

the moonhawk is a 70's american large car, not a track car. It will not handle well without race parts. It could do with a revamp but having a facelift it has done better than most other unrevamped cars

 

I guess your just used to modern cars...

 

That's how big ol' American cars like the Bluebuck and Moonhawk are specifically designed to handle like that. The civilian models specifically have that soft squishy suspension designed to soak up bumps for a smooth ride while allowing for an exceptional amount of comfort-minded suspension travel. These cars were intended to have a comfortable ride, as they were likely marketed towards well-to-do people who don't want a spine-shattering ride every time they go over a pothole. This contributes to the boat-like handling that you're complaining about. They're not made to handle like modern cars.

The lack of acceleration is down to simply the era of the engines in both vehicles. These engines are from an entirely different era than what cars like the Vivace are from. The V8s on the Bluebuck and Moonhawk are both 90 degree pushrod (cam-in-block) small block V8s. [The Barstow's 423 V8 could be classified as a big-block V8.] Plus, these are engines with carburetors on them. These engines may have that lag in power because these engines could likely be hampered by powertrains restrictions or even emission regulations. So these cars have poor acceleration because of this.

Really, you're complaining about how these cars realistically handle for what they are as 1960s and 1970s fullsize American cars. They are from a completely different era of cars compared to the Vivace for example.

 

We need an Australian map and a new Gavril executive car, available as a sedan, wagon or ute, to go with it

 

gogo me depressing 150hp v6 auto
whoops, just realized it's a holden
LS3 TIME BABY

 

Wait hold the f*ck up...

Could this be a clue that a classic American pickup will come to the game in the future?

 

I doubt that it's cluing to being the case, besides, this isn't really an anomaly for trucks as retro-fitted variants of the Sierra and Ram have existed sometime before (not in the same fashion as the D-Series, but nothing new either). Additionally, I'm pretty sure it's just for the sake of having a finished description, and isn't in anyway a hint of what we may be getting next.

 

Reminiscant...?

 

I wouldn't start shooting that idea down yet. There's hope.

 

But that's far from anything to speculate about, it just mentions that it was inspired by older D-Series. You really can't make much from it.

 

no we need newer models

 

Ok look while I would love to see a prewar vehicle or classic vehicle (including another american pickup truck) it's 1. not what the game needs and 2. there are vehicle types missing from the game that are almost essential to have. We have the Burnside Special and Ibishu Miramar that both fit the classic vehicle category but we don't currently have the fallowing
1. A fire engine - truck for both Europe and North America. Simple really why this would be useful to have
2. Where is a Euro spec Cab over. This would add more realism to European maps
3. Minvan. It's a minvan and does minvan things.
4. Tractor. Add's more realism to maps with lots of farming plots such as Italy and ECUSA but it can be used for offroading, offroad recovery and a crazy type of drag racing vehicle.
Now regarding this:

This is a leftover from 0.18 and older.
Edit - addition: I rather see map updates first before any new vehicles especially on WCUSA and JRI along with new maps.
Now I'ma stop before this stupid flame war gets even hotter. Just stop fighting over modern, classic and prewar all vehicles are the same in a crusher.

 

Because it's conceptually not modern at all...

 

There is no such thing as a boring car. Cars are what you make them. End of story