If you want to do anything else other than browsing the net, yes you do. The case you picked is more than the CPU and the non existent GPU. You are saying it's got a GPU in the CPU, so its two in one, but costs less than good CPU, obviously not up to standards. Then the PSU is way overkill, even 200W would be fine. bubble, what do you plan to do then?
Eh, idk. Maybe get a 1080p screen first, then a 7850, then maybe a new mobo. Then ask for a h100i and a bigger case for christmas.
I kind of made up a to-do list of my PC: Get a 1080p screen Get a GTX 660 SC TI Get an Intel Core i7 3960X
I guess they got the new A10 out, the Richland 6800k, and it supposed to be better. Besides, I need the power supply to power all the fans in my HAF 932! (And 2 other hard drives from my old HP)
Motherboard is 35W Hard drive is 20W CPU is 100W Some other things may be 25W Fans are 5W each, max. You can have 4 fans, which you probably do. But you would be fine having 0 fans. It's a laptop CPU.
Why on earth would you want a laptop, when you could have a laptop APU in a ATX full tower case????????
Why on earth would you spend the money to get a computer when you can get a laptop for less price? And I never said you should get a laptop, I said the APU was designed for laptops
Laptops annoy me. I like having a computer tower that is big. I was just saying I'd be happier with a laptop processor (I agree that the best use for it is laptops) in my desktop than with an actual laptop. It's still a step up from what I had before (GeoForce 210) as far as graphics if you go by frame rate for games like Rigs of Rods, plus they look better. The processor is also faster than what I had, so hey, I'm happy with it. To each his own, I guess. Then again, my friend did get a computer with good graphics, a FX 8 core processor, and other goodies for less, but hey, I didn't like the cheap case and PSU he bought, so I bought overkill components, figuring in 5 years I could reuse my case and PSU. I bought it with the future in mind. His, the case won't last 5 years, let alone still be ready to drop in good components. Now, I can get a better computer for 400 dollars less compared to 5 years ago, and next time around I hopefully won't need a new case and power supply.
There is a difference between you being happy and someone with a larger budget being happy. Although the A10 has a quite a bit going for it, this is not its ideal use scenario. This is where the I5's and Newer AMD equivalents come in, not to mention a dedicated graphics card. I would offer a better suggestion but since im in the UK i don't know what the US prices are so i would have to do a lot of research, one things for sure though, it will be cheaper than in the UK. Make sure you give AMD's cpu's a chance though as they are much cheaper and are comparable to ivy bridge. Same goes for the graphics cards, more bang for your buck but you do loose out on physx (unless you do a little fiddling) and cuda support etc. I use Intel + Nvidia but AMD are looking pretty nice at the moment and have been for a couple months. Just for reference a PC using an A10 can be had for $400 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-4XFpMZgnQ What you have achieved with an A10 seems like a ridiculous waste of money, as it would have seem you could have easily done better. Although i can commend you on choice of power supply since i also have a cooler master silent pro gold but i have the 650w model, and im running an I5 2500K and gtx 560ti from it. So 800W for you is way overkill.
I don't do Intel or Invidia. I like AMD because of the higher value and quality standards. When Intel started calling stuff "Core i3/i5/i7" (Horrible name, astronomical price) I said: "Intel used to be good, but now they have these things." I probably should have used a 650W Silent Pro, plus the smaller HAF case instead of the 932, but I did kind of want an ATX Full Tower case. Then again, maybe someday I'll need 800W, I'll agree that I don't now. I put those components at a higher priority than the Processor and GPU, because they change less over time and I wanted something that could last 10 years with the exception of fans for the case. I do have more RAM than in the video, also a bigger MSI motherboard, along with a WD HD instead of a Seagate (I have had Seagates fail on me many times).
I run a 3570 and GTX560 from a 500W supply, and Ivy CPUs have slightly MORE power draw than the Sandy Bridge you have.
I have to say, Intel is much better than AMD for the top end stuff. Maybe not the price/performance ratio in the lower end...well...Intel's lowest is i3 and it's like a FX4xxx from AMD. When AMD launched it's FX8150, it was about the same performance as the i5 2500k from Intel. They since went through Ivy bridge and now onto Haswell. Great improvements, AMD though, not so much. I sound like a "fanboy" but Intel is acctually better. Even AMD's say is that it can't compete so it focuses on the lower end and laptop usage, hence their assortment of APUs. As for graphics cards, I think there isn't much difference, but I think Nvidia wins because of PhysX. Another point is that AMD cards are pretty much clocked to the top, while Nvidia cards will atleast overclock a little bit; what that means is that your $200 Nvidia card, which was comparable to a $150 AMD card, is now like a $220 AMD card. I just prefer Nvidia because I think the quality is better.
I agree. But if you know you only need i5 3570 performance the fx 8350 is a good chip. I hate physX. :\ Very much untrue. A hd 7950 clocked between 900/975 based on the BIOS, can usually overclock to 1200mhz core, a 250mhz gain. My hd 7770 overclocked from 1000mhz to 1200mhz. Hd 7870s and 7850s usually his 1150 to 1200. it usually is, but if you are on a tight budget (me! ) Then a 7950 is a much better deal than a 670/760. Done with my AMD rant.
why? I saw someone clock a 900 Nvidia to about 1400. (this was a long time ago, but it's still true) I had a old Nvidia card that would not so much overclock on the core, but you could overclock the memory. On AMD you can't do the memory clock. It improves the performance a lot. And I still managed to get 50% more on the core and nearly double on the memory, running the stock cooler(not a reference one though )
I want max fps. Physx is nice if you are able to have two cards, 1 for physx and 1 for the game. I've seen a hd 7970 get to 1555 core. It was liquid cooled. You can overclock the mem on AMD cards, Got my HD 7770 from 1125 to 1242. Could have gone farther, but the performance started to degrade. (Stupid elpida)
So you can't? But um, physx is turned of on AMD cards, and it looks great when it's on, therefore the FPS drop, but I think its worth it.
Yes, on the low setting. Having it on the high setting will take some of the GPU's power, but it looks really good. One of the games I know that uses physx is Mafia 2, and it looks really good with all the debris.
