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True, maybe it is one.

Oh, never knew.

Found a small bug:

I'm not sure if its just for me or not, but this ramp kills cars. They get stuck in it.

Update on the ETK ESC problem: I cleared cache, tried safemode, and verified integrity. When I verified integrity, it said everything was fine. Safemode still didn't work. Should I make a different thread on this? Or is it fine to discuss it here?

 

I can't remember when did this updated but since then I actually sometimes encountered this even in non-aggressive driving forward.
When cruising at highway speeds (low aggression) and the RPM is very low, then tap the brake lightly, sometimes instead of downshifting, it just disengages the clutches and that's it. You can then coast all the way down to a full stop and the DCT is still in high gear.
Note the Gear: F 5 / 7


Also the clutches won't re-engage even when the gearbox input RPM is already well above idle speed, making engine braking coasting downhill not available unless you hit the gas first

 

Yeah, I experienced this many times. It is also annoying when you approach a hill for example with disengage clutches and selected higher gear, because when you stop like this, the car won´t preselect 1st gear and with acceleration the car just roll back like it is on neutral.

 

i've been having the same problem too, every time i spawn a factory config all the glass just commits no texture until i put glass tint on

 

I just take the glass off

 

ok

 

This tree at industrial eats cars, as if it has inside out collisions

 

Wasn't sure where to post this but I think it's time to make the Soliad Wendover a new thread?

 

Probably should wait until its out.

 

A few minor issues:
- The Roamer Fire Chief livery is heavily artifacted and pixelated at this point and looks really rough. It definitely needs a polish pass.
- The BCPD Roamer livery still has the "Belasco City" text overlapped by the door handles on the facelift Roamer. Since its default config is a facelift roamer, this should be fixed.
- For some unknown reason, the Sunburst Generic Police livery has "120" text over most of the car, except the rear bumper has "210" text instead. This is probably a typo, as none of the other police cars have this issue.

 

Testing vanilla wise, it can also be replicated without touching the brakes. Go to pure grid, floor it to 120 kph and let the car coast, tested both with a DS3 disguised as a X360 pad and pure keyboard (DS3 off).

With this method, it seems to occur especially in diesel Cherriers and the NA Sunburst Sport. (Haven't tested the SBR/Turbo Sunbursts)

Forcing the DCT shiftLogic's stallPrevent to 1 seems to heavily reduce the odds of it happening.
Will leave it to you guys to check the equations and the assorted variables.

 

Sometimes abs fails to work, when you brake, the brakes don't apply any pressure. Maybe add an update rate for the abs to recognize when the wheel is gonna lock up at all times.

 

Can confirm this happens sometimes, went right into a ditch because of it ;-;

 

IIRC it's realistic, it happens in real life too (stenyak experience it quite often !)
https://twitter.com/stenyak/status/1114723676363141122

 

droveoff a cliff because of it

 

I agree that the diesel Cherrier seems to be notably affected by this issue, from my experience.

 

This appeared to be the DCT gearbox unable to shift when the clutch ratio is not 1, also the "--always prevent stalling" logic is not perfect since when the engine reaches idle when still in gear, it stucks in "engine idle, gearbox coast" condition that prevents downshift.

I actually found a simpler solution that prevents engine stuck in idle while traveling at speed. This also fixed unable to engine brake coasting from standstill!
Note the engine torque and the gear on the lower left

In the "shiftLogic-dctGearbox.lua" at line 569

Code:

  if engine.outputAV1 < engine.idleAV then
    --always prevent stalling
    dctClutchRatio = 0
  end

change it to

Code:

  if engine.outputAV1 < engine.idleAV and gearbox.outputAV1 * gearbox.gearRatios[gearIndex] < engine.idleAV then
    --always prevent stalling
    dctClutchRatio = 0
  end

This edit does NOT affect the "not clutching in wrong direction" function

The clutch stays disengaged when traveling in wrong direction, but when you steer the vehicle to the correct direction WITHOUT touching the gas pedal(the 133Nm is DCT rev-matching), it downshifts again(not possible before the edit).