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Singlethread optimisation?

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by bonami2, Aug 15, 2014.

  1. bonami2

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    Is their going to be singlethread optimisation because it make no sense that im at 40fps at 30% cpu usage with my fx 6300 at 4.4ghz


    seriously my fx 6300 can handle bf4 maxxed out and im sure can handle crysis 3 maxxed out if a pair it with decent gpu...


    i have a 7950 more than enough


    Im singlethread bottleneck even in low graphical setting...
     
  2. TechnicolorDalek

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    Er. No. You can't compare any game to BeamNG. Each car runs on one core. There is no "singlethread optimisation" to be had. AMD processors are known for running poorly with this game, and have crappy performance in general. There's really nothing to be done about it.
     
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    You can max out Crysis 3 with a 7950 because I have :D
     
  4. bonami2

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    crappy threading system not crappy performance because i bench as high as a i5 4690k or am 10-20% behind for a 2-3 years old tech im impressed that compete with a current mid end intel that cost 250$ :p

    but yea my singlethread is low but not that bad


    the only cpu that impress me are the old 2500k :cool:
     
  5. TechnicolorDalek

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    Benchmarks are not equal to real world performance. And you don't bench as high as a 4690k. AMD cores are inefficient and slow. That's all there is to it. It's a crap chip.
     
  6. bonami2

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    Intel fanboy again they are so crap that they bench high :cool: that was at 4.8ghz on a hyper 212 evo just my chip need high volt so i stick with 4.4 for now

    Benchmark are the same thing than game just stable data.. they do not favor cpu or gpu like stupids coded game build be monkey im not saying beam ng here because it a great game im talking about most game currently like bf4 that is a stupid beta released as full game...


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  7. TechnicolorDalek

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    I have no idea what you're trying to say here. There is literally nothing that AMD processors do faster than equivalent Intel chips. Your images are too small to read.
     
  8. bonami2

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    use your mouse and click on them idk it work for me



    equivalent? there is no equivalent the amd fx is like 3 years old tech...

    the current gen of i5 still is like 10% better than the 3570k where is the competition?

    125$ in brand new the fx 6300 is awesome the current pentium 20th anniversary is the only chip budget oriented from intel that the only chip that can compete when overclocked to 4.5ghz + in multithread... in single it destroy the fx

    used the i5 2500k is awesome
     
  9. Bubbleawsome

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    Argh, you're so stuck on AMD. The reason bf4 works on that crappy chip is that is is multi-threaded and runs a thing called mantle that reduces CPU load. If you split beamng onto 4 cores you would get ok fps. Beamng is single threaded per car though. Try playing bf4 with one core enabled on your chip. 4.8ghz is only because AMD builds archs that clock high with low IPS/IPC. I forget which. I'm sure my 4670k at 4.8 would blow any AMD chip out of the water. I'm sure even a c2q at 4.8 would beat the crap out of that chip.
     
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    2500k is awesome indeed :)

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    Too bad I have the old Corsair H50 too cool it. From all the 2500k chips that I've seen on the internet, mine is the one that requires less voltage to any overclock :cool: I'll probably get a better cooler for it and easily achieve 5Ghz, even though I don't need it, but why not for some benchmarking ;)
     
  11. bonami2

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    wut the i5 is this years chip and worth 260$ canadian while my fx 6300 is 125$ seriously are you reading???? :eek: add mantle im at 60fps + but the graphic is a bit strange seem like they drop some detail


    Bf4 do not use mantle I use mantle if i enable it

    Im maxxed out in bf4 without mantle on direct x 11 with 50 + fps with my gpu at 85%-100% at 1100core cpu at 80% :cool:

    I can destroy you i5 with a 4930k at 5.0ghz you no it only 2x the price but even then your singlethread will probably be higher :rolleyes:
     
  12. TechnicolorDalek

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    (imported from here)
     
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    There is a bottleneck there, my 7950 clocked at 925/1250 (boost clocks) averages above 60 fps. If I put 1100mhz on the core I'm easily over 70-80 fps all the time.
     
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    i know but i dont need 80 fps... if i use mantle im at 80-120 on most map :) i say 50 but im mostly at 60 just when thing blow i drop to 50 :) i dont play often


    The first thread is probably bottlenecking me and need more singlecore but i dont care..... for 125$ my chip is more than capable to play all my current game.. I mostly need more gpu power but singlethread in beamng


    i5 2500k ;)


    i may add that my 7950 is going for rma since day 1 i have problem.. idk if it affect performance in unigine heaven i got 950 at 1100 so i think the gpu perform correctly of the bug




    i want optimisation for the fact is they said multiplayer how can we play multiplayer if my friend is a casual gamer???? is not going to get an i5 the only choice is the pentium 20th anniversaty for 70$ but uh i dont think most people want to upgrade..

    Most laptop player have dual core i3-i5 idk hd graphic lagg anyways... a bit normal never seen crysis 3 on hd graphic ahah


    i tried beam Ng on a Core 2 quad q6600 stock before selling it it was pretty bad... singlethread is lower than my fx stock
     
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    BeamNG is a very CPU-intensive game. There's no getting around that. I don't know how much more optimization they can squeeze out of this game, though I suspect not a huge amount. If you want to play this game, you're going to need a good computer. Oh, and most laptop players on here have i5s or i7s (like me). And integrated graphics aren't too bad for me, I can still run it on mid-low settings. Basically, you need a good computer for this. The devs aren't going to damage gameplay just to let people with craptops play it.

    Also, multiplayer is a very difficult thing in this game. I can't imagine that it's going to be implemented for at least a year or two. When it is, your computer will do all of the physics calculations (most likely) meaning that if you can't run the game with just your car, you definitely won't be able to with 5 other peoples' cars.

    Sorry if I offend anyone.
     
  17. bonami2

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    I can run multiple car no problem personally my fps dont move almost with 2 car.. that why i say we need optimisation why the hell my fps is low with 1 car but with 2 it do not move?


    Hard to build multiplayer? they said it was going to be soon?? i dont care if it bug ahah

    i7 with integrated is waste of power the mobile i7 is a strong as a desktop i5 but uh it not my choice ahah more power is always nice anyways



    World of warcraft is 10 years old and the low setting work on my laptop with the worst build in gpu in the world 4500m with a core 2 t4500 at 2.2 if i remember well

    While maxxed out it 10 time more beautifull and use alot more power... ok im still at 60fps locked and never move from there.. but the laptop will never be able to handle that..

    Im sure their is a ways to make the game less cpu intensive..


    If we wait 2 years im sure Rockstar game will come with something to crush beam NG :(
     
  18. pulley999

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    Play with 5-6 cars and you'll see similar performance to a 4690k using 5-6 cars. AMD FX has absolutely craptastic singlethreaded performance, the strength comes in when you use more threads. The devs have explained in the past that they can't multithread a single vehicle, even the slightest desynchronization would cause massive instability. Also, 40 FPS is *not* bad. Most games are very tough on the GPU, Beam is very different in that regard.
     
  19. bonami2

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    idk im at 10-30 fps with 5 car but on a big map and i can still record at 60fps with frap trial

    Fraps show 30 fps but it show the recording fps i think i dont know it showed 60fps it the last video



     
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  20. Cwazywazy

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    It's because each car runs on one core and AMDs don't have as good single thread performance as Intels usually do. I'm perfectly happy with the performance of my FX-8320 though. (Especially compared to my old crappy quad core A8-3850.)
     
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