Any word on torque reactions like the T-Series? The current version of the truck staying perfectly flat on take-off seems unnatural. I wanna see that chassis twist and front-left wheel lift up
does happen when you have a very heavy trailer, and a very powerful engine. put the t600 turbocharger and try it out
Copy that. If that’s the case, it’s pretty weak for a truck of that class. Currently sitting in the cab of a Scania G500 with 68.5 tonnes behind it, and even it wants to cock a wheel when it’s empty
its also noticeable with the dunptruck version of it too, it doesnt flex much with stock config though also, The G500 has a 500hp engine i assume? (and a load of torque)
Rightio I’ll take a closer look next time Roughly 500hp which isn’t enough. Also doesn’t have enough torque, or enough gears. Also incredibly unreliable. Do not recommend using a Scania for a Kenworth’s job
Well, Scanias around here are made to pull 74 tons daily. In the other hand, most Kenworths only pull 36 tons. Even the European Paccar's son, the DAF XF, is tougher lol
*enter india* with trucks with i6 turbo engines, with, uhh, enough? horsepower and torque, carrying well over 80-90 tons lmao though, most of them are slow as hell.
I respect the minerals in the metal that those engines are made out of. It is incredible. Unsafe, but incredible.
if we're looking at TATA trucks, well, https://tatatrucks.tatamotors.com/t...lers/tata-signa-5525s-4x2/specifications.aspx , the tippers might have more, im not sure, but they use the Cummins ISb 5.4l engines, around 950nm of torque, which, for hauling the amount of stuff they do, uhh, good luck reaching 40kph.
Many smaller/older trucks here also have relatively underpowered engines that haul waaaay too much than they should. It looks cool but I'd rather have stuff properly done tbh
If only Scania made a low-roof v8 that would fit in the loading silo --- Post updated --- In Australia we have strict axle-mass limitations to prevent road damage. More weight means more axles. We have C509 Kenworth’s pulling ~140 tonnes in the mines. Unfortunately it’s the complexity of European trucks that lets them down
Around here its almost the same. a 6x4 semi can pull any trailer up to 6 axles. Usually we have 3+3 B-doubles and 2+2+2 Turnpike doubles. With 23t of GCWR for the truck (6t in the front and 8,5t on each of its rear axles) and 8,5t on each of the trailers axles, we are allowed to go up tot 74t in public roads (for some time, there were discussions about allowing the 3+2+3 Turnpike doubles, with 91t of GCWR), also, the minimum power required is 5.71 PS per ton, so, a 423 PS truck is the minimum allowed to pull 74t (I've seen Scanias R440 pulling those trailers, and its sad). There is a logging company here that uses a Volvo FMX 540 pulling 6 trailers (B-double style) reaching 200t of GCWR, 52 meters long, and reaching up to 60 km/h. Considering that in Brazil, ALL American brands failed (the most successful was Ford, but it used euro styled and Brazilian designed and built trucks, the Cargo, that stopped being built and sold here in 2019), mainly by poor reliability and high maintenance costs, I'm forced to say that european trucks are better suited for our market, because they are, apparently, a lot tougher.
You can get a R series with a low roof up to 770 hp with a Euro 6 engine or 730 hp with a Euro 5 engine
For the Scanias, we have most of the cab options to all series (except the L Series), and also, most of the I6 engines and the 620 PS V8 (all Euro V until now). The closest we get to a Kenworth is the Paccar MX engines on the Daf XF, since Kenworth and Peterbuilt never tried to stablish themselves in our market (the only attempts were by International, Chevrolet and Ford, all failed). Nowadays, our regulations tend to "help" cab over trucks, so the chances of them trying now are very slim, specially because the group already has DAF well stablished here and the other american manufacturers, ae owned by european groups that aready have european trucks here, just like Mack (owned by Volvo, that sells the FH here), Western Star and Freightliner (owned by the Daimler group, that sells the Actros here). Considering how soft duty trucks are in the US, I understand why a US designed truck would fail miserably here, unless if heavily redesigned (even the wheels bolt patterns are different).
I see, so y'all don't have the real Kenworths. In America, Kenworths are known for their hauling ability, as the low end of the highway lineup (T680) covers most use cases, and when it doesn't quite cut it, the middle segment (T800) should do it. If you really need something hauled, and I mean REALLY, the high end (W900L and W990) can certainly take care of it with comfort included, but Europeans wouldn't be able to use these due to the length. To be honest I've never understood why regulations encourage cab-over trucks for even the heaviest duty applications in Europe, as in America no one outside of lawn crews use cab-over trucks, but I guess if you don't need the power of a long nose and need to conserve as much space as possible, a cab over truck would be the way to go.
