Yes, if we can all agree to this, then I can potentially be on board. We may also want to consider refund abuse as well.
I wish I could get money for my mod, however the issue I'd have is visually there is limited content. But actually there is lots of work put into refining content to make all vanilla content far more enjoyable to use.. hours, days, weeks and soon multiple months will have gone into this... but selling an overhaul mod seems difficult in BeamNG. If few people bought it, word would spread slowly or not at all. If I were to ask for donations then many people might download it and few people may donate to the creation of the mod.. word of mouth may spread fast but people willing to donate might still be lacking. I feel as though many mods, even with content might suffer similar issues.
Your idea sounds just great, and there is hope that it will solve all the problems, but it is worth understanding that even if a user agreement, passwords to archives and so on are invented, it is still impossible to close this crack through which paid mods leak, because there will be someone who spit on the user agreement and even password-protected archives can be trite hacked,whatever anti-piracy system is in the game, you can still find its torrent on various sites, yes, Internet piracy is prohibited by law in some countries, but in Russia, believe me, there is actually no such law, and I'm a little ashamed, that our Russian community is a leader on such "pirate" questions. (gif for attention)
Unfortunately I really cannot imagine a system that achieves both... easily accessible files to the end-user and modders... and also locks those same files from use without confirmation. The only systems that do work usually require layers of systems to be in place to even play the game, and nothing is fool-proof. I've only seen it work on tiny games where server requirements are tiny and everything is very small scale. Typically where almost all game content requires to be signed into this account which to play due to it literally requiring an internet connection by nature of the content in said example.
Even without DRM, simply having an in game store would make things more convenient, and piracy by comparison less convenient. Equally it would increase visibility too. All of which is a win in itself imo, even if piracy increased in line with that due to lacking DRM. With that said, other similar(ish) platforms that support 3rd party content like VRchat have added DRM to help prevent piracy, which has been somewhat effective.
Considering the game itself has no DRM, I wouldn't be surprised if pirating the game is as easy as CTRL C CTRL V. Why should modders have all this protection if the game they're modding doesn't even have it?
Sadly, i'm not a modder, but sincerely, i won't agree to this project and i won't make paid mods. Because i love seeing members enjoying my mods and this makes me so proud of me. But you're all free to decide everything you want with your mods, i'm noone to decide or to protest.
Also on a side note, if you did have paid mods that can be leaked.. it's possible you'd just lose a ton of income off of that and there would be people who don't like you just for "having the audacity to charge money" Where as if you offer it free and accept donations.. that fixes the issue of hate and garners a more supportive based income (also improves things towards copyright issues as well)
im glad you, as one of the most influential and active modders in the community said this. im sure the thousands of users enjoying all of your really high quality mods of which you have made loads would agree. obviously someone like you who has made so many dev quality pieces of content in your time has an important opinion on paid mods that everyone should listen to and respect
What's your point? Sure they're not a modder and they do not make any mods. They also ended their argument with a statement that roughly means "to each their own" by saying they're not really here to protest at the end of the day, even if that is kinda silly as the act of saying something is a form of protesting, even if not that strongly by saying counter-intuitive things.
I didn't want to seem Disrespectful against modders and creators. Only, I personally don't share paid mod logic, I find it disrespectful against some members who don't have economic possibilities to buy it. And I find it useless, because there will always be mod leakers and thieves. Only this. I end with this post. Edit: I know that you want to make money too and have economic indipendence. I reespect your decision, but I absolutely don't share them.
There needs to be a way to prevent Idiots from Modland getting the mods and putting it on their stupid website for the mods to be free, I think this idea would be pretty nice to see.
Not sure that's the right way to put that... you don't share the idea of these people having financial independence. Huh? I am a modder and also don't have financial means for jack anything atm, so I'm somehow on both ends of the complicated mess you're navigating. I don't think arguing something extra costing money is disrespectful to those who don't have money is a good argument.
There are other methods, apart making mods. With all respect, I don't say anything against this. At last, I don't give a damn. I'm not a modder, and sincerely this makes me refuse the idea of start modding
You make it sound like modders are human trash who deserve nothing, as if it's a dishonorable way to make a living if there ever was one. I am mixed about paid mods but suggesting that we're not worthy of making money is very disrespectful, for someone who is saying they don't wish to be disrespectful. Ah yes, instead of using skills to be another form of content creator in the world we should all go hit up our local fast food joint and "get a real job" Also how does the choices of other modders change if you decide to make mods? You started this conversation pretty innocent, now you're like watching a train wreak in slow-motion.
I'd really think that making a paid mod as long is high quality will be a good idea for it, Modders would make money once someone buys their mod.
Maybe I'm wrong, and I'm sorry for words used rn Anger doesn't help me, I didn't want to seem disrespectful. But I think to other members too, who desire have a mod, and they have to pay for them. I don't share it. Only this And sadly, i can't mod, i don't have any skills and motivation and time. I'm sorry again. I had a stupid anger moment, that I poured out wrongly. I simply tell that I won't agree
If i where to make a mod, i would either have the decision to make it free or paid as long i made it high quality enough, It would take time and skills since i don't have the skills at the moment.
