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Building a gamer PC for simulators

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by Zero, Oct 23, 2014.

  1. Zero

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    Hi

    I have come to a point where I want a desktop as well, as my laptop doesn't handle beamNG (and some other sims) with high graphics and fair fps. Therfor I would like to purchase a desktop gamer PC as well. My budget is around 1200 dollars, and I do NOT need keybord, monitor, mouse etc. Just the PC itself.

    I mainly wanna use it for simulators like: BeamNG, ETS2, City car driving and I could continue the list.


    Thanks :)
     
  2. logoster

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    do you need os? if no:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.98 @ OutletPC)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ NCIX US)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($91.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($368.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1061.87
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-23 11:31 EDT-0400

    if you do need an OS(ignore the price of windows 8.1, idk why it chose the more expensive option when you can get it cheaper):

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Micro Center)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($91.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($368.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($101.98 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1115.86
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-23 11:32 EDT-0400

    or if you prefer windows 7:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant


    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Micro Center)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($28.98 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($137.99 @ NCIX US)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($91.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 290X 4GB Tri-X Video Card ($368.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: NZXT Source 210 Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
    Total: $1120.86
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-23 11:32 EDT-0400
     
  3. pulley999

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    Very good, only complaint is the SSD. I'd get an i7 4790k instead and buy an SSD later for a couple reasons.

    An SSD as an upgrade can be added to a complete system, whereas a CPU upgrade requires outright replacing what you've already purchased effectively putting all that money spent on the lesser product to waste, unless you're willing to bank on the secondhand market. You want your CPU to last a long time.

    SSDs are advancing very rapidly. Larger sizes and price drops happen every 1-2 months, as well as improvements to longevity and writespeed. An SSD bought under these conditions will devalue far more rapidly than a CPU, which are advancing at a snail's pace comparatively.
     
  4. logoster

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    reason for i5-4690K instead of i7 is that the i7 really only brings hyperthreading to the table(so more vehicles at once), other then that they have pretty much equal performance

    on my mid-end i5 i can handle about 6-7 vehicles(depending on which vehicles obviously) before it becomes unplayable fps wise (other then in case of t75, which i can't even handle 1 because of that tire causing major fps loss glitch) so the i5-4690K should give the OP plenty of performance (including 75 Fps with 1 t75) for the games he wants to play

    if you really think the i7 would be better for his needs though, i can change the build (depending on how much money is left over, might even be able to get an ssd in still, allbeit with less space)
     
  5. SixSixSevenSeven

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    In my experience BeamNG doesnt play nicely with the hyperthreading anyway. Although I do know there is somebody else here whos experience differs, this might simply be down to me having a dual core rather than quad core.
     
  6. BlueScreen

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    The i7 is just a hyperthreaded i5. You won't get any better framerates in games, and if you do it'll be 1-2 fps. And hyperthreading doesn't really like working under load.
    So, the 4790K is a waste of money. I could've saved up a bit and bought one, but I just got the 4690K instead.
    And if you're gonna spend $340 on a 4790K you might as well just buy a 6-core 5820K and a base ASUS LGA 2011-3 motherboard.
     
  7. Johann2326

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    Why not get a gtx 970 instead of the r9 290x. Uses less power, costs less and similar/better performance.
     
  8. logoster

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    because there out of stock everywhere
     
  9. Johann2326

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    Well... I didn't think about that, but personally I'd just wait until they're back in stock.
     
  10. pulley999

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    The Devils Canyon i7 also is binned better, by extension coming with an extra 500 MHz right out of the box and usually more OC potential, and has an extra 2MB of onboard cache compared to its i5 counterpart. All the i5 has going for it is 2.68[SUP]o[/SUP]C more thermal headroom according to Intel.

    Hyperthreading works well with BeamNG in my experience, I can get one full additional vehicle going at the same time or many many more "prop" objects before I hit a CPU bottleneck with it enabled vs. disabled. Then again, I'm running a few generations old arch, I can't say how well HT works on the latest arch but it does wonders for me.
     
  11. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Im running an ivy bridge 1.8ghz mobile i3 dual core. That may well be responsible for the difference between hyperthreading working and not working.
     
  12. logoster

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    If you reach a cpu bottleneck with prop objects in normal gameplay(as in not testing the limits), then your playing the game wrong (at least in my opinion)

    Sent from the 3rd galaxy via the talks of tapping
     
    #12 logoster, Oct 24, 2014
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