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Update Speculation thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by crazikyle, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. Danny the Sniper

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    It was about time that a pre-war car is gonna be added to the BeamNG roster sooner or later. What a pleasant surprise! :D

    I bet it'd be branded as one o' these American brands: Gavril, Burnside, Bruckell, or Soliad. Perhaps a new American brand, too.

    Still, I hope to see inline-8 engines and hot rod configurations. Hot rods are pretty popular and inline-8 engines are underrated, so.

    Ye Olde BeamNG!
     
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  2. adobenchaa

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    True, I'd never noticed that. Regardless, the one on the Piccolina is much more appropriate even though its a later design than this new prewar car would be.
     
  3. simsimw

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    we should get a flathead V8
     
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  4. Formula24

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    One thing I dont see anybody talking about but I think opens up an interesting possibility is in this era of car, nearly ever year had quite big changes both mechanically but also visually. I think this could be the most config and part heavy car(s) (remember they also built loads of different versions off the same frame as well) we have seen.

    I also don’t think the Stambecco being there was just filler or coincidence. I wonder if it will also benefit those throttle mapping/engine changes
     
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  5. Kasey1776

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    I was thinking the same about the Stambecco. Perhaps we might get a couple configs for it
     
  6. jamessimo

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    I’m more familiar with pre war British cars, would this be a side valve engine or a “modern” inline cam engine?
     
  7. Ayoub Mahjoub

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    there is also the stambecoo drawing could have been working on it since atleast before 0.27 but thats just ideas
     
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  8. crazikyle

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    I don't think anything can take the title of the most part/config heavy car from the D Series.
     
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  9. Ax50

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    I hope it gets at least one coachbuilder config that's very luxurious and different, or some kind of racing version. Moonshine/early Nascar or early Le Mans would be so cool.
     
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  10. ManfredE3

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    This and the Moonhawk definetly could.

    For example, the 1932 Ford had 7 body styles and a facelift in 1933 and more major changes in 1934. The 1935 Ford (Still with 7 body styles) was on the same platform with a 1936 faceliff, the 1937 Ford (now up to 10 body styles) was again on the same platform with a facelift in 1937 and 1939 and 1940.

    Then there's the aftermarket scene, which is just massive. All sorts of different potential hot rod, racing, and off road configs, all in contemporary, mid century, and modern styles. We could see some weird movie car stuff (like how the Scintilla has the Dark Owl), and we could see something like the Beck Custom (BigTime recently did a video on the IRL car, which mechanically had a lot of Honda S2K bits with a 1932 Ford body).

    Not to get too much into the Moonhawk right now, but that could also get a lot of body styles, racing content, and Soliad versions
     
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  11. DriftinCovet1987

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    It is possible for there to be yearly revisions for this car. The devs have gradually gotten way more into facelifts (to the point where many of the new vehicles since 0.15 have had at least one facelift), and some of the versions for cars of this period (like the 1928-30 Chevrolet AB, AC, and AD and 1933-4 Fords) weren't that different from each other.

    However, yearly wheelbase changes (like from the Chevrolet AD to AE, and 1932 to '33 Ford) were quite common, as well. I could definitely see a D-Series-like scenario for this car, where one facelift isn't that big (likely a different grille or headlights), while another is very drastic (a new engine, a wheelbase change, different front end) to mirror both types of facelifts.

    My main question is - how will this be named? Chevrolet changed the name of their car every single year from 1927-34 (AA Capitol, AB National, AC International, AD Universal, AE Independence, BA Confederate, CA Eagle and Mercury, Master and Standard), while Ford (1928-31 Model A, 1932-34 Model B) had a more gradual change in names.

    Dodge used the Dx series naming system from at least 1930 to 1934, when they switched to Big/DeLuxe/Standard Six for one year, and then went back to Dx (with numbers at the end from 1936-42). I know that PackardCaribien used "Caporegime" for their '30s Bruckell suggestion, but that strikes me as more of a Soliad name.

    It could be both - Chevrolet used OHV on their engines from 1913 onwards, whereas Dodge and Ford were using side-valves on their engines until the 1950s/1960s. (The Chrysler flathead engine, introduced in 1924, was used in Dodges until 1964, and came in four-, six-, and eight-cylinder variants. The Ford flathead V8 was used until 1953.) I wouldn't be surprised if the inline engine(s) were OHV, while the V engine(s) were side-valve.

    It could also be both if the engines are inlet-over-exhaust, like on the Hudson straight-six from 1927-1929. That would probably be really difficult to find sounds for, but it would be neat.
     
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  12. Ax50

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    Mod idea: Front wheel drive and a massive Cherrier badge:
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  13. XR8guy

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    If it has an 8 cylinder its most likely going to be a v8, not an inline 8 due to how difficult it would be to find the audio. by the late 20's - early 30's v8s were starting to become quite popular with engines such as the Ford flathead, Oakland/Viking v8, Cadillac/LaSalle L-head & Oldsombile v8
     
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  14. catchow1977

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    olds stopped v8 production in 22 and did not make another one untill the 40's
     
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  15. paulnewman

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    I know that devs always strive for ultimate realism. But for the pre-war car to be realistic it would probably have an unsynchronized transmission. Will they go that far? I mean I’d love it but it would certainly lose some of a broader appeal to say the least.
     
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  16. ManfredE3

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    That's on people who granny shift instead of double clutching like they should
     
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  17. DriftinCovet1987

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    I remember trying to make an unsynchro'd gearbox for the Autobello a few years ago - the way I fudged it was by having the shift delay at about 1.4 seconds to simulate rev-matching. I'd love to see a proper unsynchro'd box for the '30s car - and possibly added to the T-Series.
     
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  18. Formula24

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    Early Le Mans seems really unlikely, no cars like this where really being raced at Le Mans in that time. NASCAR is possible as this era of cars got used for quite a long time and morphed into Modifeds. This style of car was also super popular for Land Speed Record cars again over a very wide time frame (they are still used today), so I wouldn’t be surprised to see one of those. One interesting thing though is that there was some Indycars of the Era built on modified production chassis so that wouldn’t be entirely out of the conversation either.
    upload_2024-10-30_12-13-23.jpeg
    (An example of how popular older style bodies where in NASCAR modifieds even into the 60s and early 70s)
     
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  19. FFIVGUY

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    Automation actually has I8 samples in the files
     
  20. DriftinCovet1987

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    That does make sense, since one of the Automation FAQ answers mentions that the devs want to add L2, F2, V4, L8, F8, and F12 engines to the game as DLC engines (much like the current V16 DLC). They might already have the sounds for all of those engines (if not, then at least trying to get the sound recordings).

    If there were any official car that could get a straight-eight, this car would be the one (at least, if the Beam devs don't suddenly consider adding more pre-war or early post-war cars, like they've been doing with modern cars for the past ~five years since the FCV dropped.
     
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