What is an interesting car fact you know?

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  1. combatwombat96

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    They cost money, there, thats an interesting fact
     
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  2. Mikah 01

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    - Columbo's car is a mystery, as no Peugeot 403 cabriolet were sold in the US. So either they brought it from someone who imported it privatly, or they used a sedan to make a replica

    - the Renault 4 had a version similar to a fastback, sold in Mexico.

    - Most , if not, all post-war french cars were either pre-war project studied in secret during the occupation, or relaunched pre-war production cars
     
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  3. Mikah 01

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    There are two brands that are arguably , just Renault in export market :


    -Dacia , who sold rebadged Renaults (12 as 1300 and less know , the R20 as the 2000) , then , their lineup was basically facelifted R12s (and pick-ups) , now it a brand that sells crossovers on a clio Platform. So they are more or less a Renault Romania.

    - Hino . Now, this one's a bit different, because they were killed by Toyota After only selling three models . First one was a Renault 4cv during the partnership, and then a dauphine-like(and for facelift , it felt like the baby of a corvair and a Renault 8) compact car sitting on the 4cv Platform. So , they were more or less a Renault Japan. There was a pick-up variant called briska , and both the contessa and the briska were sold in Israël by the help of Autocars

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    Fun fact NO.2 : speaking of the Renault 4cv, it was also sold in Tunisia ( and served A LOT as taxis, a d even used by the police) . And , UNEXPECTEDLY , they did what nobody ever thought they would do : Renault sold the 4cv in the U.S.A.

    'Now , i didn't found much informations about this , so i Can't tell if it was a success or not ( judging the american tastes for unecessary enormous cars,i would Say it failed , but not as much as the Dauphine). The only thing i know about that is that it was sold through-out the dealerships of an exporting company called Green
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  4. Mikah 01

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    The Panhard CD Lemans.......
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    ....Got a road Legal model . And it went Into production

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    That makes the CD LeMans one of the few racing prototypes of this competition to have received a road Legal model



    Fact NO.2 : the alpines A110 , A108 were sold in : Mexico as dinalpin, bulgaria as Bulgaralpine, spain understand FASA-Renault modifiés to support the road's conditions, and in brazil under the name of Willys Interlagos.

    Fact NO.3 : Renault made a division to sell in bulgaria : Bulgarrenault

    Fact NO.4 : outside of Europe and Africa (and probably South America) , Peugeot Always failed in export market.

    Fact NO.5 : the wallyscar Izis is the Tunisia equivalent of the jeep dallas, wich is itself , the french jeep willys. So it's a Jeep based on a Jeep based on a Jeep.

    Fact NO.6 : there was a very rare Citroën CX serie inspired by the concorde


    Fact NO.7 : there's a Chrysler that doesen't have any name.


    Fact NO.8 : Jeep had two french equivalent : cournil Tracteur/4x4 , before the company went bankrupt and sold the license to many companies, giving it a second life, or even third ( the Auverland A3 in France still , the UMM Alter in Portugal and the JPZ Montez in Brazil). The second Jeep equivalent is the Jeep.....Dallas . If that one looks the same as the willys outside , the Dallas sits on a Renault 4 Platform.

    Fact NO.9 : speaking of the Willys, it was also produced understand license in France by Hotchkiss.

    Fact NO.10 : the Renault 12 got lots of sister : the R12 Alpine ( exclusively for argentina) the Renault-Oyak , the Ford corcel , the Renault Virage, the Dacia 1300 , the good as Heck duo that were the R15/R17 (Italia R17 being the R177) . And that's without counting the Dacia tree . The R12 has a Big familly, doesen't it ?
     
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    Not long after the Jeep Commander ended production in 2010, the CEO of Fiat (who own Jeep) said that the Commander was "unfit for human consumption".
     
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  6. Mikah 01

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    Fact N.1: Renault wanted to sell the R17 in italy. Problem : in italy, the unlucky number is 17 ( just like 13 in France, Hence why there has Never been a Renault 13)


    So they did something funny.


    The Italian R17, is called : the R177 , a rather long name


    Fact N.2 : when PSA annonced the end if the 2cv's long carreer , sales actually went up.

    Fact N3 : the 2cv is the last car to use the pre-war french naming system ( Aka named After it's amount of fiscal horses)

    Fact N.4 : Citroën sold a very original 2cv in argentina. It has a Tribox design and was not named 2cv (nobody knows what's the Fiscal horses tax) but was named Citronetta, for " small Citroën" , so it was pronounced in spanish " Citroën small Citroën".

    Fact N.5 : the Panhard 24 is one of these cars that could've been succesful, but didn't. There were plans for an affordable version, and even a sedan (the missing piece of this puzzle) , but both were refused by Citroën, who was controlling Panhard AT that time.

    Fact N.6 : the Tata Estate is a Mercedes-inspired design motorised by a Peugeot-indpired engine.

    Fact N.7 : the Peugeot 604 was sold user license in korea by Kia.

    Fact N.7 : the Citroën Traction had to get a 22cv version powered by a V8 , but they got bankruptcy and brought by Michelin who cancelled the project. Same thing happened in the Seventies with the Sm
     
  7. Mikah 01

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    When Chrysler brought AMC , they also brought the right to produce two USDM Renaults : the Renault Médaillon, and what would become the Eagle premier. So arguably, Eagle was selling what was left of AMC
     
  8. bussin.buses

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    That’s not even an arguable point, it’s just a fact. Originally, Chrysler was going to continue the AMC name, but at the last minute, they renamed it Eagle. You can even see how they used the AMC colors on the ads and just changed the lettering.
     
  9. Mikah 01

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    Well , how is it just a fact ?
     
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    You said "So arguably, Eagle was selling what was left of AMC," and that's a fact, not an opinion.
     
  11. Mikah 01

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    Well , the already-out Medallion and the Premier were in the contract . And instead of killing them , Chrysler putted them under Eagle name instead. So , along with jeep, Those two cars were the last things from AMC
     
  12. bussin.buses

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    I know...?
     
  13. Mikah 01

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    Oh yeah sorry. Misunderstood that
     
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  14. Mikah 01

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    When Renault brought IKCA in argentina, they replaced all the lineup with Renaults , except the Torino, because it was an icon in argentina, so it became the Renault Torino, and arguably Renault's last RWD car.

    There were two USDM Renaults that weren't AMC-Renault : the Renaults trafic, converted Into a camper and sold as the Winnebago Lesharo. And the second was when Renault owned a french truck company called Bernard, wich owned Mack , so Renault also owned Mack, and they sold their bus , the Renault FR1 , as.....the Mack FR1, was a Big fail tho and less than 50 units were sold.
     
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    Plymouth Trail Duster is the only SUV produced
    Plymouth.
     
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  16. Mikah 01

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    The Ex-Simca that was talbot had a confusing lineup , because if the proposed models weren't Rebadged Simcas ( Talbot VF1/VF2 , Matra-Talbot Rancho , talbot 1510) , they would just be restyled Peugeots (talbot tagora, talbot samba, talbot express)
     
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    the 2nd-row windows of the Toyota wish cannot fully retract into the door panel. it will sit about 5 cm above the window line.

     
  18. Mikah 01

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    The Fords scorpio, Granada and most importantly, the Sierra, all had a Peugeot Indenor engine
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    The Volvo 480 was equipied with Renault engines
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    And the Ford corcel was just an R12 for Brazil
     
  19. Mikah 01

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    The french once built one or the biggest bomb of it's Time : the Gerboise Verte. It was putted then in an airport in Algeria. But due to the Algeria War , the bomb had to be moved away and blown .

    And aparently the bomb was transported by....... A 2cv.

    Like , bro . A powerful bomb transported by a Shitbox of the Time, imagine how doomed Algeria was.
     
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    They just wanted to have one more go at screwing the Algerians over.
     
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