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  1. SixSixSevenSeven

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    34 degrees, bloody hot day.


    I refuse to accept Fahrenheit as a valid unit of temperature measure. Kelvin or celcius only. Fahrenheit has zero relevance in the modern world. All calculation ultimately revolves around degrees kelvin which itself is closely related to celcius, kelvin just sets 0 as being absolutely zero thermal energy whereas celcius sets 0 at water freezing, but an increase of 1k is an increase of 1c so c works just fine most of the time.
     
  2. TheAdmiester

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    I doubt you could make a fire at 0 Kelvin and be fine.
     
  3. Potato

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    I knew someone would come back with that response.
    You get what I mean. I'll reword it :|
     
  4. SixSixSevenSeven

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    At that point, a fire is probably the least of his concerns :p

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    Wow, decided to look up what defined the Fahrenheit scale. Its retarded. Freezing point of brine = 0, human body core temperature = 100. Bit arbitrary. Why brine? Why human body?

    Rankine is apparently to Fahrenheit what kelvin is to celcius.
     
  5. Zappymouse

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    Protip: These sorts of smarmy quips don't make you look clever or smart. They make you look like an arrogant asshole.
     
  6. Cwazywazy

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    It may be a retarded system, but it's our system. If you don't like it, go away.
     
  7. Kitteh5

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    You try it someday, yuppie. Will it be constant Starbucks keeping you warm?
     
  8. Zappymouse

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    You're an arrogant asshole too.
     
  9. Kitteh5

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    That'd be fun to watch.

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    Well OK, at least I don't hide it. Maybe it's the lost sleep.
     
  10. Occam's Razer

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    I'm gonna be unoriginal and side with Rooster Teeth's Burnie Burns on this matter. Yes, Metric is more logical. It aligns itself with the already largely accepted system of digits of ten, and at the end of the day, makes orders of magnitude more sense mathematically and logically than the imperial counterpart. Except for temperature.

    On that matter, Fahrenheit scales much better to the human body and commonplace Earth temperatures than Celsius. You can conceivably be alive at 0 and 100 Fahrenheit, although not comfortably. At 0 Celsius, you're easily alive. At 100 Celsius, you're dead two-three times over. It makes no sense to use a system wherein the extremes are insufficient to reflect the kinds of temperatures we can realistically expect. And while, yes, Celsius is more in tune with scientific knowledge of physical temperate extremes, that doesn't mean we should start calculating the length of our daily commutes in Astronomical Units. It makes sense to science, not to daily living.

    Edit: to clarify, I don't mean that the Celsius/Kelvin system shouldn't exist, I just mean that it's more at home in a lab than in a weather station.
     
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  11. Kitteh5

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    Beat 6677 at his own game.
     
  12. aljowen

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    Not everyone lives as far south as you. 0*c (32*f) is not some unusual super cold temperature. Also considering that cold weather is one of many factors that can cause me to have a panic attack (I get cold very easily, shivering will commence, then breathing difficulties, then pain). Just put a coat on, if i can survive that sort of weather without hitting the floor i am sure you should have no problem with it.

    Units of measurement, while i prefer *c who really cares. If i was creating software to communicate body temperatures in space suits then it would totally matter, but here and now it really doesn't. Example of where it really does matter: http://www.wired.com/2010/11/1110mars-climate-observer-report/
     
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  13. Kitteh5

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    I survived, except with no feeling in toes. I had to sleep in the coat. Everyone down here thinks I'm like Canadian with my cold tolerance. It's just meh. #livinginbasement
     
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  15. Zappymouse

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    The entire premise of using 100 degrees as a baseline measurement is inherently wrong. If you want the system to measure relative to human body temperature, why not have 0f = 37.7°c? What's so special about 100?

    Celsius is based on the boiling and freezing points of water (100°c and 0° respectively) , values that are reasonably consistent on earth, given that the water isn't pressurised or in a vacuum.

    And astronomical units? WTF dude. Metres and kilometres are a thing in the metric system. They're great. 100cm=1m, 1000m = 1km, ad infinitum.
    12in = 1ft, 3ft = 1yd, 1760yd = 1mi makes no frigging sense.
     
  16. Occam's Razer

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    Again I state, I am not waging a war on the metric system. Yes, more rational systems are in place that can offset the irrational mile and the downright loony AU (for this purpose). My first paragraph consisted of me agreeing that metric should completely and permanently offset the imperial system (other than temperature). My statement about AU was anecdotal.

    I would argue that most human-assigned values of the world around us are entirely subjective, and therefore cannot be wrong.

    It's a multiple of ten, for one. And as the metric system denotes, this is just logical.

    And that's great, consistency should be the backbone of a good system of measurement. And since humans are predominantly made of water, it makes even more sense.

    What it doesn't do, however, is adequately describe reasonable temperature extremes to be encountered when walking outside.
     
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  17. CTJacob

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    It makes a lot of sense when someone spends 14 years jamming it into your head.
     
  18. BlueScreen

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    Fahrenheit is stupid. Not as stupid as the rest of the imperial system, but still stupid.
     
  19. TheAdmiester

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    Protip: it's not a smarmy quip. If you somehow find yourself in 0*K conditions, you're not going to have a good time attempting to light a fire.
     
  20. Zappymouse

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    The only time AU is used is for the reason it was defined; measuring massive distances in space where exametres and greater are difficult to comprehend/visualise. Very few people will ever come across AU in their daily lives. You can make anecdotes, but they don't have to be ridiculous.
     
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