should i upgrade my PC?

In my humble opinion. Id recommend you either a 7995WX if you're into productivity because it's a business class gpu that ain't that much optimised for gaming or a 9950X3D wich is more gaming focused. Intel rn's kinda ass. I'd wait for their new gen. For the gpu. Don't get a 5090. If you want THE gpu. Get a RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell. It's the even better 5090 using a the full gpu chip (the 5090 is a nerfed and weaker variant of the pro 6000) pair this gpu with one of the two cpu's i've mentioned with a board that fits the largest amount of ddr5 Vram and you're good to go.

The pro 6000 blackwell is like 12k
And the 7995WX around 10K
With the remaining funds. You can get your board, storage, ram and stuff. For around 25k ish(i didn't do the precise math
Or the 9950X3D is around 1k
I hope i could help you a bit. It's up to you at the end of the day. But that's pretty much what i would go for if i was you.

 

That's not a realistic upgrade for anyone.
Yes a 5090 isn't needed.........in fact anything RTX 3090 and up in performance is enough GPU horsepower to run Beam at max settings at 4K. My 5070Ti can run any map ultra settings and everything maxed out without going below 60fps.

a 7995WX is a stupid recommendation because people just can't admit that intel ISN"T ass right now. In fact their arrow lake CPU's are the best CPU's to use for beam because:
1. The fastest single thread performance in a consumer CPU
2. The Hybrid architecture with E-cores is fully exploited in Beam allowing for superior frame rates when lots of AI cars are spawned.

Single thread performance is king, having a ton of cores doesn't do anything if they aren't fast enough.

Arrow lake has the quickest single thread performance, and its even more interesting how the lowest end arrow lake CPU has better single thread performance than the 7995WX you linked.



It would be a complete waste of money to buy any type of threadripper or epyc CPU for Beam.

Even intel's lowest end Arrow Lake CPU (10 cores 10 threads) is better than a 16 core AMD X3D chip........because superior single thread performance

 

I want you to try 9950X3D not laptop 7945HX3D
You looks like have lot of money to buy cpu, then buy just one 9950X3D you will find out why ppl calling intel 15 gen ass
but yea 5090 is don't needed I agree with that

 

I want you to try building and disputing any of my results, how come you can't? I probably have way more money than you but I'm not an AMD guy and i'm not going to buy a CPU that runs beam poorly vs what I already have, so why don't you?

Why would I try a a 9950X3D when a low end intel chip with less cores can beat a chip that's nearly the same as a 9950X3D?
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To put it more in perspective

If a 7945HX3D is faster than a 7800X3D, but the 7945HX3D is slower than an Arrow Lake Ultra 5 225 with only 10 cores.....why should I even bother with any more X3D chips when the absolute best performance is from Arrow Lake.

West Coast 80 cars

285K 5070Ti



over 30fps

14900K 4090



25fps

7945HX3D RTX 5070



~20FPS

7800X3D RTX 4090



17fps

All of my testing has shown the AMD chips not performing as well as the comparable intel chips

I play with lots of AI cars, plain and simple and Arrow Lake to date is the fastest CPU for that.

 

yep, I got it, just show me what mod did you installed, also what settings are you on. I want try those on my personal 9800X3D
also, 9800X3D is faster then 7950X3D

EDIT: nevermind I think I got all the settings in vid just show me what mod you installed

 

I don't have any mods installed.....Only Crashhard 2.0 and City of Los Injurus

 

what about traffic? are u using original beamng ui?

 

everything is original..........i add the traffic UI app and spawn traffic from that, its clearly shown in all my videos

 

just go with the 9950x3d it bumps up ur fps so much and it increases the 1%lows x3d cache works good in beam and it has 16 cores
the threadripper might have more cores but wont improve ur 1%lows (never had it but i heard a 9950x3d is more stable)
but its up to you and if you want to spend more just spend on a insane am5 mobo
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the 7945hx3d is a mobile chips so ofcours it wont be as fast as a desktop pc the desktop version runs much smoother

 

Except 3D cache doesn't do much of anything for Beam, that's been proven many times.

The 7945HX3D is IDENTICAL is a 7950X3D (a "desktop" chip) it only has a lower TDP,

If I was building a new computer.....I wouldn't go with AMD if I played Beam a lot with lots of AI vehicles.....even intel's lowest end Arrow Lake CPU can beat a 16 core AMD cpu.

 

Buddy was sponsored by Intel. 285k gets crushed Vs 9950X3D in basically every game and is on par with the 285k when it comes to performance in beamng. Id argue 30fps isn't way better than 25fps on some of the tests you've shown.

 

So if i'm sponsored by intel, why do I have equal Intel and AMD systems in my house?

If I was sponsored by intel why have I done all the same testing on both my AMD and intel systems?

Why do the intel systems with hybrid architecture perform better in beam than the AMD 3D cache ones?

I'm willing to bet i've spent far more time and used far more systems than you have for testing beam. So why don't you share your results with everyone.

FACT, multiple AI cars want lots of fast cores. FACT intel's arrow lake CPU currently have the fastest single thread aka per core performance and excel in running multiple AI cars in Beam.

If they didn't can you please explain the results that i've posted over and over again?

How come a crappy 10 core arrow lake cpu (225) is the same or slightly better performance than a 7945HX3D cpu (lower power 7950x3d)?





See, i'm not a delusional fanboy for either company I buy each company's CPU's and test them, the results speak for themselves

Just looking at some of your posts it's apparent i'm dealing with someone who doesn't understand things very well

Guys help, my gpu power isnt maxed out in beamng but utilization is 98%, gpu is RX 7700XT and power draw is 130W in 1080p ultra with graphics mods, performance **seems** fine getting 100fps but i havent tried other games yet
Specs: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G (CPU), AMD Radeon RX 7700XT (GPU), Arch Linux, Zen kernel 6.15.3 (0S)

Your CPU sucks and it's old, and your GPU isn't anything special either...............you GPU can get maxed out and not use its fully TGP,

So before you go off and call me out for being sponsored maybe get yourself a better system before you come in spouting a bunch of crap that doesn't provide any real value.

But for now i'll go back to testing systems, because that's what I do

 

no offense, but 7945HX3D which is Low-power "7950X3D" is gen 4, and same 16 core cpu but 9950X3D is gen 5, also 2~3 year difference, looks like you have lot of money, so go ahead buy an 9950X3D to check
there was lot of improvement between them.

 

I thought you were? No need to buy something i have zero use for. The 7800x3d vs my 7945hx3d is all I need to know.

Where was the improvement where are the beam tests/ benchmarks.

Still waiting for all your testing results to prove me wrong.

So I have lots of money and you are poor? Why do you think I have lots of money? I have a hobby it's what I spend my money on

Why don't you try this and see how your system does

 

I am casual guy who plays on 1080p and 5090
yes sound stupid but im in 1080p

can u try at 1080p also for good test idk

 

No, you test at 1080p, you have a 5090 so test it yourself. Im busy testing other aspects of the game. I don't need to run the game at 300fps at 1080p. I run at 4k. But good job on having a 5090 to play at 1080p that makes so much sense.
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Here's a good test you can run

Spawn 200 portable toilets, then destroy them all.

 

Woah, Unfair comparison, low powered laptop chip Vs a desktop that draws 200+ watts? fuck no, I bet you are scared of testing AMD's desktop chips. And a 5600G doesn't suck, fixed the issue too for low power.
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Id also argue, benchmarking just beamng for AI performance is useless. Because why would you want to play the game in 30fps? I get it, having lots of cars in the game sounds great and all but even 20 ai cars are a lot of cars and even a puny little 6 core like my 5600G can actually run it with an oc, seeing how the 5600X performs.
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Heck it runs at 50-55fps with those many cars. Im willing to bet the 9950X3D has no problems running 50 ai cars at 50fps.
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Also the 285k is really only good for core heavy tasks which does make it good for beam, but id say the 9950X3D would also do good, so why don't you buy the 9950X3D? the 7945HX3D isn't a fair comparison since its a low powered laptop chip with an older arch and just be honest, you only play beamng right? If thats the case, theres no way you are saying a 285k is a better cpu. So shut the fuck up. Intel is already in a bad state and you are promoting its shit products. I mean in every single game apart from beam, the 9950X3D easily beats the 285k by 30-40%, and its really strong for productivity, the only good thing about intel is their quicksync feature and yeah thats about it. As a person who has 994 hours (almost 1k) in beamng I can tell you that more cores with more threads are the best combo for better AI performance. so the 8 less cores that the 9950X3D, would still have eight more threads, so Id expect about the same AI performance or better. Also Before you say my 7700XT isn't special or whatever, you are just spoiled, ofc a 5090 will beat a 400 dollar GPU, but at a premium that you have to pay 10x more to get that much more performance, If I paid 10x more for a 5090 than a 7700XT Id expect 10x more performance, and in the real world its only more like 2x, so even ur 5090 isn't the most special object in the world. and you think a 10 core cpu like a 225h is shit? Wow buddy you've been soo spoilt by shit. These are the people who can't live without a 5090 and think its the bare minimum to run basically any game. And I'm not blaming you, it happens, when you are so rich that you can afford basically everything doesn't mean that the things that cost a fraction of what you paid for your much better hardware is shit. goddamn get a life bud. And if you are saying, "why would I buy a 9950X3D if you cant", Then why would I? I don't have such high computing needs at all. We are just curious to know how AMD and Intel stack up against each other and the primary competitor to the Ultra 9 285k would be the 9950X3D not the 7945X3D or a 7800X3D or whatever you have. So please stop spreading shit that "intel is better than amd", blah blah, they should be pretty similar and its the only game that actually makes the 285k look good, just look at benchmarks of the 285k in other games, absolutely ass performance for what you pay for it. It's not a gaming chip, just a productivity beast.

 

for real, even comparing 7945HX3D and 7950X3D has big difference, but this guy thinks 7945HX3D and 9950X3D will be same.
also, if you compare Gen 4 16 core 7950X3D vs GEN 5 8 core 9800X3D, 9800X3D wins easily, its not all about the core,
but I gotta say, Ultra 9 285k might better then 9800X3D, but idk it will be better then 9950X3D.
and big problem is your attitude Tyler, u are acting like u are the best, calling other ppl's pc sucks, much more, u gotta fix that attitude "pc benchmarker"

 

Testing a single game for your entire life doesn't make you a proper bench marker.

 

Still waiting for you to prove all my results wrong, you said you were going to.......again still waiting.

Also there is MINIMAL difference between a Laptop CPU on a desktop board vs the 7950X3D........

The 7945HX3D has a 120w short power limit and 100w Long power limit, that's higher than it's implementation in the only laptop it's ever been used in (The ROG Strix Scar 18) in that laptop its long power limit is only 75w.

So you say it's not fair, but why is the power draw on my chip 100W so close to what the 7950x3d is? especially while gaming?

it's not my entire life, but since i do TEST AND BENCHMARK the game i fully understand how the game performs on a variety of hardware, so when people want to come in and try to argue with feelings instead of facts and data I thoroughly enjoy that.

So tell me where I'm wrong?

The point of putting tons of AI cars in is to test the architecture of the CPU........would think someone as bold and as loud about being wrong as you would understand that.

AI performance isn't useless at all in Beam, that's the entire point of the game, people love to play with AI cars/traffic/police, a system that is better

What kind of Copium is that? It has the highest single thread performance of a consumer CPU right now, it does well in any task.

You'd say??? Because of what? I'm not wasting money on a 9950X3D when its some how magically not going to perform much different that the 7950x3d which really wasn't very impressive to begin with. Again more REAL cores is what beam wants.

Yeah cope harder on that metric sorry but its a better overall CPU especially if you actually work and make money with your PC, and yup quick synch works amazing

Again assuming, why don't you actually buy one test it out and prove me wrong......and only 994 hours......sorry kid i've been playing beam since the beginning and have double the hours.

Sounds like something a peasant would say, I'm not spoiled I have money I work hard for it and I spend it as I see fit. Why is it always the poors complaining about those who buy expensive graphics card they can't afford?

Coming from the kid that doesn't understand VRAM requirements for AI, keep making yourself look like special needs

Where did I say a Core Ultra 5 225 is bad? quite the contrary it actually keeps and and beats CPU's with more core counts in Beam........it's obviously just not as good as the 24 Core 285K

I get that your are jealous and poor but this is getting old already

See my point above, there is far more to computing that just gaming, ever wonder why Nvidia is worth 4 trillion market cap right now? PC gaming is a drop in the bucket for them and AI is huge and is what they have expanded and focused their resources on, so to reinforce because you can't figure it out. People buy 4090 5090 or 90 class cards for more than just gaming.

We get it you are poor......but thanks for saying i'm rich I sure don't feel rich but if that's the hill you want to die on go for it.

Then quit assuming it's performance, wow you really are all over the place here.....what if I require high computing requirements? Am I still rich because I needed a top end system or not? I'm simply just following your advice right?

The super cool thing is i'm not showing either in a good or bad light..........you can clearly see all the settings I use for each test I do so it's not a "setup" or an attempt to make anything look bad. So again here's what I've discovered

1. You are jealous
2. You don't understand the computer market
3. You assume others who have a better computer than you are rich
4.You make a whole lot of baseless rage like assumptions while rage posting.

Let me know when you have something beneficial to add to this discussion
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You might be interested to know I actually tested out graphics cards............since I have 3 5000 series cards......you might also be interested to know that I didn't recommend a 5090..........but of course you'd have to stop your daily dose of copium to figure that out.

https://www.beamng.com/threads/5000-series-rtx-benchmarks-in-beam.105624/

I also did core testing as well....

and reduced power testing

https://www.beamng.com/threads/beam...gurations-on-285k-interesting-results.105511/

https://www.beamng.com/threads/core-ultra-9-285k-performance-at-reduced-tdp-of-35w.105608/