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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by tdev, Feb 8, 2015.

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  1. SoHigh00

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    Hey, I don't know where to put this but sice there are many devs active, Ill put it here. Has there been any more progress on the "race update"? By that I mean of course the actual races themselves...beeing able to create a pathway for the AI to follow, checkpoints, timers etc? Great progress lately by the way ! I also really apreciate the increase in communication :D
     
    #21 SoHigh00, Feb 8, 2015
  2. tdev

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    Yes, getting the callstack for the crashdump, generating a HTML overview and then ordering into the crashing filename. Was quite some work to get it working like that, but without this tool it would be even more work to sort the things out by hand.

    Also, currently trying to fix fullscreen mode up in special cases, funky results ensured:
    window_mode.png

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    added to first post:
    that being said, its WIP
     
    #22 tdev, Feb 8, 2015
  3. Goosah

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    Last night I worked with Estama, testing the implementation of anisotropic periphery beams in the pressureWheel, with the aim of reducing rolling resistance. My test rig concluded there was no significant benefit :/ Tonight I have something new from him to test!
     
    #23 Goosah, Feb 8, 2015
  4. TheAdmiester

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    This all sounds very oddly satisfying.

    Do you have any screenshots or whatever about the inner workings of this tool or does it involve game stuff that you don't want to disclose?
     
    #24 TheAdmiester, Feb 9, 2015
  5. tdev

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    Fullscreen fallbacks finally working:

    [xcode=plain]
    1.068737|Attempting to create GFX device 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti on #1 (D3D9) [with output \\.\DISPLAY1]
    1.069214|shader model: 3.0 , available monitor size: 1
    1.076946|Device created, setting adapter and enumerating modes

    45.937583|AntialiasLevel: 4,BitDepth: 32,FullScreen: 1, RefreshRate: 60, Resolution: 1920, wideScreen: 1080
    45.938148|Win32Window::setVideoMode - invoking curtain
    45.967342| Failed to create hardware fullscreen device, trying windowed mode

    45.968341|AntialiasLevel: 4,BitDepth: 32,FullScreen: 0, RefreshRate: 60, Resolution: 1920, wideScreen: 1080

    45.975015|Win32Window::setVideoMode - invoking curtain
    45.988670| moving window to: 0,0 / 1920,1080
    46.129737| Cur. D3DDevice ref count=1
    46.130502| Pix version detected: 3.000000
    46.132128| Vert version detected: 3.000000
    46.132560| Maximum number of simultaneous samplers: 16
    46.132993| Number of simultaneous render targets: 4
    46.135245| Hardware occlusion query detected: Yes
    46.138107| Using Direct3D9Ex: No
    46.183794|WMIVideoInfo: DxDiag initialized
    47.458568|Initializing GFXCardProfiler (D3D9)
    47.458987| o Chipset : 'GeForce GTX 750 Ti'
    47.459461| o Card : 'RDPUDD Chained DD'
    47.460208| o Version : '9.18.13.4709'
    47.461007| o VRAM : 2048 MB
    47.461351| - Scanning card capabilities...


    ...


    48.404512|--------------
    48.405079|Attempting to set resolution to "1920 1080 false 32 60 4"
    48.408730|Accepted Mode:
    48.408753|--Resolution : 1920 1080
    48.408772|--Full Screen : No
    48.408780|--Bits Per Pixel : 32
    48.408787|--Refresh Rate : 60
    48.408794|--FSAA Level : 4
    48.408801|--------------
    48.409631|AntialiasLevel: 4,BitDepth: 32,FullScreen: 0, RefreshRate: 60, Resolution: 1920, wideScreen: 1080
    48.410180|AntiAliasing has been disabled; it is not compatible with AdvancedLighting.
    48.411102|AntialiasLevel: 0,BitDepth: 32,FullScreen: 0, RefreshRate: 60, Resolution: 1920, wideScreen: 1080
    48.412674| moving window to: 0,0 / 1920,1080
    [/xcode]

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    Its a quite complex python script up to now. No time to explain it further now, got to fetch some sleep

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    OK, worked all night through: refactored logging: new debug levels (debug + info), improved file logging (and log rotation) and improved console logging.

    torque3d.log now with start time and log level (D = Debug, I = Info, W = Warning, E = Error)
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    //----------------------- 2/9/2015 -- 09:03:24 -----
    0.850217|D|--------- Loading DIRS ---------
    0.852234|D|Executing art/main.cs.
    0.853372|D|Executing scripts/main.cs.
    0.856132|D|Executing core/main.cs.
    0.859464|D|Executing tools/main.cs.
    0.862955|D|
    0.863151|D|--------- Parsing Arguments ---------
    0.865965|D|Executing scripts/client/defaults.cs.
    0.866994|D|Executing core/scripts/client/defaults.cs.
    0.875414|D|Executing settings/game-settings.cs.
    0.876971|D|Executing scripts/server/defaults.cs.
    0.878220|D|Executing core/scripts/server/defaults.cs.
    0.879561|D|Executing scripts/server/prefs.cs.
    0.881546|D|Executing core/scripts/client/core.cs.
    0.885219|D|Executing core/scripts/client/audio.cs.
    0.890714|D|Executing core/scripts/client/canvas.cs.
    0.893439|D|Executing core/scripts/client/cursor.cs.
    0.896252|D|Executing core/scripts/client/persistenceManagerTest.cs.
    0.902928|D|Executing core/art/gui/profiles.cs.
    0.940281|D|Executing core/scripts/gui/cursors.cs.
    0.942858|D|Executing core/scripts/client/audioEnvironments.cs.
    0.958400|D|Executing core/scripts/client/audioDescriptions.cs.
    0.963432|D|Executing core/scripts/client/audioStates.cs.
    0.967812|D|Executing core/scripts/client/audioAmbiences.cs.
    0.970106|D|Executing core/scripts/client/oculusVR.cs.
    0.973382|D|Binding server port to default IP
    0.973812|D|UDP initialized on port 0
    0.974046|D|no Oculus Rift support :(
    0.974459|D|Attempting to create GFX device 0: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti on #1 (D3D9) [with output \\.\DISPLAY1]
    0.974746|D|shader model: 3.0 , available monitor size: 1
    0.982777|D|Device created, setting adapter and enumerating modes
    0.984026|D|AntialiasLevel: 4,BitDepth: 32,FullScreen: 0, RefreshRate: 60, Resolution: 1024, wideScreen: 768
    0.988488|D| moving (centering) window to: 448,141 / 1024,768
    1.101577|D| Cur. D3DDevice ref count=1
    1.103517|D| Pix version detected: 3.000000
    1.104652|D| Vert version detected: 3.000000
    1.105823|D| Maximum number of simultaneous samplers: 16
    1.108223|D| Number of simultaneous render targets: 4
    1.109518|D| Hardware occlusion query detected: Yes
    1.110163|D| Using Direct3D9Ex: No
    [/xcode]

    This is how the windows console looks like (colors, error counters, no debug messages)
    logging.png

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    OK, refactored complete logging subsystem in T3D and libbeamng. Should provide good debug and proper user feedback now :)
     
    #25 tdev, Feb 9, 2015
  6. B25Mitch

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    Just finished UV unwrapping the Ibishu 200bx. This is a very tedious task in which I have to map every face on the model to a space on a texture map, 4096x2048 pixels in this case (textures are created in double resolution and then scaled down).


    (imported from here)

    Each UV island requires a small margin around it to avoid conflicting with the adjacent UV island, and space must be conserved as carefully as possible to get the best quality out the texture resolution.

    Fun fact: U and V are special coordinates describing texture space, kind of like X and Y :)

    For those of you who are wondering, the 200bx that was leaked last week isn't at all representative of the quality we're currently producing - that was an outdated mesh from last year, used to aid jbeam creation. Rest assured the model quality will match or exceed that of the Sunburst.
     
    #26 B25Mitch, Feb 10, 2015
  7. IBsenoj

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    Wow. That is amazing, I had the most epic music playing right when that picture loaded lol. Anyways, Thanks for the update! Amazing work once again, you guys never let us down. :)
     
    #27 IBsenoj, Feb 10, 2015
  8. monte379

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    Wow might exceed the Sunburst model you Devs are the greatest!!:)
    Nice work Mitch!!
     
    #28 monte379, Feb 10, 2015
  9. tdev

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    still working on this massive change ...
    log.png
     
    #29 tdev, Feb 10, 2015
  10. Hati

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    that -- looks nightmarish
     
    #30 Hati, Feb 10, 2015
  11. TYLERTJ

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    Really looking forward to the 200BX, but I think the T series should be a priority. AFAIK, it's complete other than some textures and interior, no? Anyway, progress has been REALLY great lately:)
     
    #31 TYLERTJ, Feb 10, 2015
  12. monte379

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    It looks like the 200BX is going to deform nicely:cool: And I'm loving the progress lately:)
     
    #32 monte379, Feb 10, 2015
  13. SoHigh00

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    Lucky Gabester escaped this time :p Now seriously... Really awesome work Mitch, as it looks really nice and clean :) UV mapping really takes patience but it' so rewarding to have a near perfect map for texturing. I can't wait to see what you do with this one!
     
    #33 SoHigh00, Feb 10, 2015
  14. Dummiesman

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    Hm, what kind of massive change?

    (hopefully not too far off topic)

    To expand on that, U an d V are typically points between 0 and 1. 0 being the left (in U coordinate) or top (in V coordinate) of a texture, and 1 being the right and bottom respectively. For example, here is a part of the texture with the UV coordinate listed


    (imported from here)
     
    #34 Dummiesman, Feb 10, 2015
  15. TheAdmiester

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    So UV coordinates are essentially the percentage covered of a square up to the designated point?
     
    #35 TheAdmiester, Feb 10, 2015
  16. Aboroath

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    This is sheer awesomness. Always wondered what UV meant in relation to texture mapping. I understand a bit more now when someone says this
    process is a headache. I can assume by the sheer detail in the 200BX texture "sheet"?....this thing is going to look stunning.

    Question: When scaling down the size does the resolution go with it? Great posts guys.
     
    #36 Aboroath, Feb 10, 2015
  17. Dummiesman

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    Basically yes, can be a rectangle if the texture size ratio is 2:1.
     
    #37 Dummiesman, Feb 10, 2015
  18. AdR

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    So you'll end up with a 2048x1024 texture for all the metal parts, right? that's too small for such amount of small parts in there. Some will just lose their detail on the resolution change.

    Why not using one 2048 map for the body (all exterior parts, plus makes a good template for future skins) and another 2048 for the inner metal parts, to keep the detail?. The normal map will look a lot better like that, specially on the seams and small details like emblems
     
    #38 AdR, Feb 10, 2015
  19. gabester

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    2048x1024 with the UVs he's shown above will be plenty. The existing cars like the Bolide, Grand Marshal, and Moonhawk use that size texture for their body/underbody/frame/suspension and look fine.
     
    #39 gabester, Feb 11, 2015
  20. crimsonskull

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    umm, where is the other side of the car?
     
    #40 crimsonskull, Feb 11, 2015
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