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Discussion in 'General Off-Topic' started by Car crusher, Apr 4, 2014.

  1. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Yes. Dont use the realtime priority setting.

    Seriously. *NEVER* use the realtime setting for consumer applications. There are very very very very few scenarios in which it is useful. It can interfere with hardware drivers and system tasks alike. the "high" priority setting is the highest you should use for a video game.
     
  2. SuperNoob05

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    Ah ok.
    But while it lasted it did seem to make a bigger performance increase than the high setting.
    Well, I'd rather have the game not crash than have it run 2FPS faster though.
     
  3. SixSixSevenSeven

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    The realtime priority setting takes that process out of the normal task scheduling algorithm and switches it for another entirely different one. It then jury rigs the original task scheduler to try to cram all the conventional processes in around the realtime one.

    Realtime processes *MUST* always respond during a specified timeframe. Windows will kick system tasks and drivers out of the way in order for this to happen. It can be very problematic to do it to a game.

    It exists for industrial machinery and similar only, although most of those use a true realtime OS instead (such as windows CE, no relation to regular windows).
     
  4. SuperNoob05

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    So, basically, this will deactivate everything it has to in order to get the process done by time x.
    Does that mean that it could deactivate things that could render the whole system useless i.e. the CPU driver(s) or the HDD driver(s)?
     
  5. aljowen

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    Its pretty safe, but the last thing you want to do is brake the traces on your mobo's pcb after scratching it with a screw driver or craft knife :p

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    Ableton sucks balls when it comes to step sequencing. It should not require two midi tracks and an audio track to have a step sequencer. You need a step sequencer plugin on one, then route the midi to the second track and then route the midi to the hardware synth and then route the audio back to the audio track.
    Two tracks would have been understandable, one track would have been ideal but 3 is a total piss take, especially when you are limited to 8 tracks cause i am too cheap to upgrade from the lite copy that was included with the synth itself.
     
  6. FilsFilms

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    Forgot to post it here. Enjoy. :p
     
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  7. SixSixSevenSeven

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    CPUs do not have drivers. HDD is handled at the kernel level rather than as a service.

    While there is a little more to it. A decent tl'dr is yeah, deactivates anything it can in order to get the process done. Only services and processes though. But these can include input and output device drivers. Things like keyboards, mice, gamepads, network cards, GPUs, steam running in the background, explorer.exe, antivirus (plus viruses themselves xD) or any other application on the PC can potentially be royally fucked.

    The problem really comes from trying to force the Windows NT kernel to run 1 or more threads as realtime tasks on what is not truly a realtime operating system and mixed in with hundreds of non realtime tasks, just doesnt really work too well outside of a few specific use cases. I have heard of it used on windows based servers before, but usually when true realtime functionality is needed, the developers switch to a true realtime OS so it isnt the most useful setting in windows for the consumer.
    Changing the affinity can aid usefulness of that setting. Forcing a thread to be limited to just core 3 for example leaves cores 0, 1 and 2 to run other tasks and services. Not worth dicking with this for GTA.
     
  8. SuperNoob05

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    So I should just not touch it for the sake off, well, potentially everything.
    Good to know.
     
  9. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Ultimately its nothing a reboot cant fix.
     
  10. g0tsl33p14

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    This is the English I understand and enjoy. I am going back to my reading now, carry on.
     
  11. SuperNoob05

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    I'm too lazy to hold the button down for 10 seconds though :p
    No, really, where did the restart buttons on PCs go?
    I have an old Windows XP PC from 2005 or so besides me, and having the ability to restart it with the push off a button intead of having to hold something down for an eternity is so much nicer.
     
  12. aljowen

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    My PC has a reset button underneath the power button. Lots of modern computer cases still have reset buttons.
     
  13. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Just your PC I think. Dont recall seeing anything other than a mac without a reset button like ever? Even the cheapo HP unit in the tea room at work has a reset button beneath the power button. My case has one. My old case had one. Uni machines have one. Rig I built at mates has one. Had a keyboard with one once, dont think thats a thing anymore, worked on XP but not on 98, was a bit weird.
     
  14. SuperNoob05

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    Weird.
    I guess it's just a thing with Germany then, cause I haven't seen a PC with a restart button in like 5 years (not including the one right besides me)
     
  15. Cwazywazy

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    My NZXT gaming case has one but not the old Gateway case from the late 90s that's next to it. I guess it just depends on the case.
     
  16. Kitteh5

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    Old Dell doesn't have one, laptops don't either.
     
  17. g0tsl33p14

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    I'm watching this if you'd like to join me.
     
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  18. SuperNoob05

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    OpenIV 2.6.4 is out, so now I can finally listen to every sound file in GTA V.
    Isn't that awesome?
     
  19. BlueScreen

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    Maybe you should buy the god damn 750 Ti you have been asking questions about for the last 6 months (at least, I've lost count)?
     
  20. Kitteh5

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    Or if you have a PSU up to spec, R7 260X, if you do want to come to the dark side. (not a fanboy really, would kill to have a gtx 980 ti in my rig.)
     
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