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My laptop wont boot up this morning!

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by Kw433 (Kevin W), Jul 19, 2015.

  1. Kw433 (Kevin W)

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    Hi, yesterday I used my pc, then turned it off normally.
    This morning I pressed the power button and the screen stays black. After 15 seconds I can hear the fan spinning, I can hear other components working, but the screen stays black. After about 30 seconds, I hear no Windows sound, so I long press the power button to shut it down (this is not what i do normally!). The pc shuts down with a whirstle.
    I could not believe it, so I turned it on again, and the same thing happened.
    Any help? Please DO NOT suggest to buy a new one.

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    Tried to connect it to a TV via HDM1, but it says "no video available"...
    I dont know what to do, at this point. There is no hope.
     
  2. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Well we already established that you've been letting your laptop dangerously overheat.

    My vote is that you've killed it.
     
  3. Kw433 (Kevin W)

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    probably, but why yesterday I was playing RoR as I normally do? no overheat, nothing like that. RoR doesnt causes any problem to my pc.
     
  4. argilla11

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    Try reseating your RAM.
     
  5. Kw433 (Kevin W)

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    how to do it?
     
  6. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Easy. Remove RAM. Reinsert it fully.
     
  7. Kw433 (Kevin W)

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    ok, thanks

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    It did not worked. I opened the bottom lid and removed both rams. After some minutes I put back the ram and boot the computer, but nothing has changed.
     
  8. vladmir poopin

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    "its dead jim"
     
  9. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Yeah, if the heats killed it then reseating the RAM wont help.

    Its just sometimes in a laptop with it being a portable system it gets a knock and the RAM comes dislodged, does cause startup issues if that happens but usually the BIOS will show a warning of some sort (as there is enough RAM on the motherboard itself for the BIOS to perform its self tests). In this event, simply opening the laptop and reseating the ram again will sort it, its just in your case that isnt the problem.

    If the heat has indeed killed it, the only solution is either replace the entire motherboard or buy a new laptop. On such an old laptop, the prior option isnt always an option. Even for my 2 year old laptop, to replace the mainboard actually costs as much as buying the entire laptop again. You *might* find a 2nd hand one perhaps, but do you want to bother? Its upto you really. I know cwazywazy has mucked about with one of his laptops built up from various bits taken here and there but I almost think thats a hobby rather than something he does because it makes financial sense - because it doesnt usually.
     
  10. randomshortguy

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    You shouldn't even bother trying to resurrected it anyway. You can buy a used cheap desktop or laptop for less than $100 that will be 3x - 4x faster.
     
  11. daveywaveyHD

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    If you really realllyyy want to try your luck (potentially killing the machine indefinitely if it goes wrong) you could try re-flowing the main board. I'm not going to explain details here, google it if you are interested. Basically you take the motherboard out and bung it in the oven for 8 mins at a high temp. It essentially allows the solder to melt just a little and potentially fix gaps where it may have broken from overheating/old age. I used it on my mac when the graphics card died and it worked... for a month. Anyway, if you are going to throw it away and replace it you lose nothing. Have a look at some tutorials. :)
     
  12. Kw433 (Kevin W)

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    maybe it can be that my laptop is 7 years old...
    It is an Acer Aspire 5920g, here are the specs:
    CPU: 1.6 GHz dual core (Intel Centrino) T5450
    RAM: 4 GB (Samsung)
    Graphic Card: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
    Hard Disk: 250 Gb HDD Samsung
    OS: Windows Vista Home Premium

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    I do not think that the heat killed it because yesterday I was drifting on RoR at 60 FPS on a MV4s, no overheat. The temperature is the same as playing Pacman (Stupid to do :D).
     
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    What's weird is that it died only now.
    With it reaching those exaggerated temperatures that even left heat marks on it, you are lucky it still lasted a few months.
     
  14. cameron4me

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    Maybe try to get a RAM stick, don't bother with a new one, just if you have one lying around then it might be that. That is the end of constructiveness.

    I'm really not going to offer any constructive advice past this point, so if you don't want to read it then just don't. It's my opinion really.

    Either try the re-flowing (cooking it) or just get a new laptop. I know it may still work at some point but really, there's no point. It's old, to me at least (trying to pry apart my old man from a 11 year old desktop is quite a challenge but anyway) and it, by the looks of it, can't be too fast. You can pick up a laptop for very cheap now, maybe get a used one from eBay for $250 or £200 or equivalent. It will most likely perform faster, look better, and not die (if it is eBay then god knows but still).

    EDIT: I'm not trying to pressure you into getting one. If you have money lying about (I know that's far fetched) then spend it on a new laptop. Depending on what you have I would recommend new but if you just want something temporary for work and RoR, etc then just get a cheap used one.
     
  15. randomshortguy

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    It doesn't necessarily need to get really hot to break. It's the perpetual heating up the cooling down that's the worst for small silicon pathways. As you know, when things get hot, they expand, and when cooling, they contract. When computer chips experience this cycle for seven years it can actually break these connections.
     
  16. Kw433 (Kevin W)

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    I have another laptop: an Asus X50Glseries, so I can borrow the RAM from there, but the problem is not the RAM, because in the system there is already enough RAM to show a warning saying that the RAM isnt connected/working.

    Should I try to replace the CPU? I dont bother trying it, because my T5450 is crap and I need a T9300. If my pc still doesnt work, I'll install the T9300 on my Asus X50GL.
     
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  17. randomshortguy

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    No, don't bother replacing the CPU. Get a new computer. Its clear you are very attached to this computer, but really, its dead, spend your time and money and get a new one. Or used. You'll thank us all in the future.

    Its a machine, they break. There's only so much you can fix, and I suggest you take out the HDD, hop on craiglist or eBay or a local garage sale a buy something that won't give you so much trouble.

    Just to reiterate something said a while ago: you can get a much faster computer that will run better, faster, and stay cool for less money than buying legacy old parts for a laptop

    I saw a laptop, lenovo something, core i3 3230m, gtx 550m, no HDD for $150 used. That will blow your laptop away
     
  18. Kw433 (Kevin W)

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    I dont like new laptops because you can't replace parts and for example installing a better CPU.
    in some gaming laptops like Alienware 18, you can, but that thing is very expensive.
    So, I can buy a desktop pc, (I saw a Vibox with lifetime warranty, 4.0 GHz in turbo mode, 8 GB RAM, water cooled and corsair cooling set).
    But, you dont know that I am 13 and I cant afford a beast like that. not because of my age, but because I am a student... A cpu is probably the best thing for now.
    I am typing with my Asus (this thing has got a cpu socket as well, I can also change grahics card, RAM, HDD and other less important hardware components, like my old Acer, but this laptop is 2 years younger), a friend of mine gave it. I was really happy because I could play Multiplayer on Minecraft and what happened to my Acer just shocked me.
    But I dont think it's completely dead, because that morning when I long pressed the power button, it shut down with a whirstle. A dead pc will shut down when you TOUCH the button, because the pc is not really working or Windows isnt loaded up, like in the black screen, like Windows error recovery.
    The first time it shut down long pressong the power button, then the second time I just shut it down touching the button.
    The beast isnt dead ;)
    Also when I press Enter, I see the HD light flashing!
    But, really, I am not sure what's wrong with it. I just know one thing: it is not completely dead, there is something I can do about it.
     
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    About the "I can't afford something like that" part :
    I am 12, which means that I have to go through the same stuff as you (pretty much), and I was able to afford a good PC for 650€.
    While I did have to wait untill my birthday and Christmas to get the money, the wait was worth it.
    It has an Intel Core i5 4460, 8GB of RAM, a Nvidia GeForce GTX 750, which, while not being the best parts, are still good for playing games like BeamNG at normal settings at 60FPS.
    If I can get that PC at (pretty much) the same age as you by just waiting, then you can do it too.
    You just need to be patient.
     
  20. Kw433 (Kevin W)

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    My parents do not like computers, of any kind. Just iPad. I hate iPads.
    If they do not like something, they will not let me buy it with my OWN money, either.
    The only thing to do is to show them that I deserve a computer.
     
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