General computer talk/advice

Aerocool, Be Quiet, Coolermaster, Fractal Design, Seasonic, Zalman and Thermaltake are all brands I've heard of from that list.

 

seasonic is cheap but good quality, if you don't care about grey sheet metal go with a seasonic one. be quiet is very nice but pricey.

 

Don't know why, but seasonic is more expensive than be quiet for me So maybe i will go with be quiet then, 85$ for that one i find

 

Corsair PSUs are also very good, just avoid the cheaper CX series (they're not bad, but not great). RM series are great, and HX/AX are some of the best PSUs in the market.

Edit: Didn't notice it wasn't in the list, oh well. If you do find an RM/HX/AX Corsair PSU, they're really good.

 

About that thing of the 390x performing better with DX12, I would wait for games with DX12 and see the real difference, same thing happened with Mantle, bechs showing 50% increase and stuff like that.

This might help:



Although I really doubt that you would have problems using your current PSU with a 970. It might give you problems OCing the FX.

By the way how much is the Gigabyte 970A-UD3P vs the MSI 970 there?

 

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Thanks
I'm looking for a new PSU for my Optiplex.

 

Thank you for that pictures, will see what i can find

Gigabyte is 50$ cheaper than MSI here.

 

Buy that one, it's a great mobo for OC (It has 8+2 power phase), while the MSI has 6+2.

 

and it really wont make much difference, certainly not 50 bucks worth of difference.

I do love your obsession with power phases though, but time to shoot you down here, they are meaningless, totally meaningless.

It is quite possible to make a 10 phase supply that can only feed a 5W device, very possible. Its also possible to make single phase supplies running into the kilowatts.

 

Don't multi-phase systems deliver more consistent power though? AFAIK the whole point of more power phases is for better stability.
But yes, it's entirely possible for an 8-phase power circuit to be better than a cheaper 10-phase. Probably quite common too.

Also, he said the Gigabyte board is $50 less. I'd go for the MSI since Gigabyte's low-end boards are usually just 'good enough', definitely not great for OC no matter how many power phases. And the MSI 970 Gaming is a great board.

 

In theory, yes.

In practice. Not necessarily. Stick a sodding great big cap on a single phase, it will probably be more stable than a capless 8 phase. Stick a sodding great cap plus a smaller non electrolytic, sorted. Hell, many devices out there do run single phase without issue.

Just phases alone is meaningless. Plus you cant even link what chipset the board uses to how many phases it has, simple reason, the SMPS controller can simply be an external component rather than the integrated one on the existing chipset.

 

The UD3P isnt a low-end board. The diference is 20$ on Newegg.

And it is quite possible that less fases output more heat, which influences the stability (And that MSI does not have any sort of Load line calibration), not to mention their curse with Vrms.


Edit: I've been doing further research, the MSI 970 gaming still has Nikos mosfets (Not a big surprise) but it does not have over current protection. Meaning that it can easily catch fire while doing OC.

Seriously I thought that they've improved over the years, but nope. Well at least they have a cool looking.

 

Would it be possible to flip over the plugs to my GPU in the back of my case so my 290 can have its fans pointed upwards? Right now they're pointed down and creating massive heating issues with the PSU.

 

I dont know if that works but you could turn around your Tower housing. But it´s not such a good idea. Let it like it is now.

 

Thought I'd do a quick experiment on the effects of removing my intake fan. The results, CPU temp is slowly rising, but still seems to be a perfectly acceptable ~30C. Hit 50c with 2 vehicles in BeamNG, HWMonitor reporting 108W through CPU.

Seems prodigy M + Hyper 212 Evo works very nicely. Sadly this chip will not overclock to save its life.

You might need to explain better.

 

The Hyper 212 Evo deserves all the praise it gets. Full load on my FX 6300 (when it was overclocked to 4.4 before I had to turn it back to stock), in Aida64 full stress test, it hit 52C and stayed there for an hour. Not bad to be honest.

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The fans on the GPU are intake fans not exhaust. The fan inside the PSU is also an intake.

The PSU exhausts rearwards. The GPU kinda just has all the air exit out all of the sides, or if it has the plastic cover they tend to exhaust out towards the I/O shield.

Your heat build up area should actually be the negative pressure area these devices are *feeding* air from. It could even be that any heat issue you have simply comes from a lack of fresh air.


But no you cant flip the graphics card over easily. The PCIe connector is on the edge of the PCB and the cooler itself must be attached to the chip which again is on a preset side of the PCB. The best you could perhaps do is get a PCIe riser cable and make a custom GPU mount elsewhere, but the effort to do that you'd be better off just cutting a hole in the sidepanel for a new *intake* fan.

You can also get PCI slot fans, but they tend to be exhaust whereas I think you need intake. Plus if there are any lower 5.25" bays, there are 60mm intake fan adapters for those, or have you checked if your case can take a lower front intake in the first place?