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Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by BlueScreen, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. Eastham

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    unstable overclock, add more voltage or turn down the OC.
     
  2. Nate2826

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    Amd is ok but mainly for the cheap builder

    if i was to rebuild i wouldnt go amd again, it runs hot when playing games because the fans really kick up on high

    my pc specs:

    Amd Fx6200 @3.8ghz
    gigabyte 970a-ud3p
    xfx amd radeon 6850 gpu x2 improperly crossfired (mobo dont support)
    evga bronze 850w psu semi modular
    seagate barracuda 1tb 7200 rpm 64mb cache 6.0gb/s
    and a seagate barracuda 500gb hdd
     
  3. Funky7Monkey

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    Already suspected that, returned to stock clock, rebooted, and still unchanged.
     
  4. BlueScreen

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    For £600 you're better off getting a low-end i5 such as a 4460. They're pretty good, certainly better than buying an old CPU. I don't know how well eGPUs work, but they seem likely to have less than ideal latency for gaming. What bus do they actually use? I don't know of any laptops with external PCIe.
     
  5. Eastham

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    They work off either the internal mini pci-e port or if you have a ThinkPad like I, they also work off the expresscard slot and surprisingly from what I've heard there isn't that much latency, and it would make for quite the unique system.
     

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    Dont bother with mini pcie or expresscard GPUs. They seem like an amazing idea until you consider one thing.

    PCIe lane count. mini pcie and expresscard are both only PCIe x1 (plus a single USB 2.0 in mini PCIe, not always connected on motherboard side). A single lane. Fine for wireless adapters, USB controllers and other simple I/O devices. Useless for GPUs.

    Modern GPUs already take a significant bottleneck being run in 8 lane PCIe instead of 16. And yet you want to run it in single lane? They will produce a full 1080p output if you need an additional monitor, they will not hardware accelerate reliably.



    I also vote against first gen i7. Sure you can overclock it to 4ghz or so, but it wont be matching a modern i5 still. Per clock they are slower and more power hungry, the older parts arent as easy to come across either.
     
  7. Eastham

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    Never thought about it that way, I just looked at the fps results a lot of people where getting and thinking that's pretty good, I am still torn, I could get a nice Lenovo Y510p with sli gt 755m's or continue to look into a AMD build, an I5 is still a option though, you guys are giving me quite a bit to think about.
     
  8. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Just whacked Windows 10 onto my nice shiny new Hyper X Fury. Also whacked Windows 10 on a 2008 Power Mac with a SATA 1 drive (1.5gb/s max throughput on the SATA interface...), installation time, yeah no, I have drivers all up and running, steam installed etc and we'd still probably be waiting to login on the mac.
     
  9. Funky7Monkey

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    You should see my school computers. They load the user profiles from the county servers, 10 miles away. On what feels like a 2Mb/s connection. My school system is dumb.

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  10. logoster

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  11. Funky7Monkey

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    I want a GTX 950 for X-mas. Well, I want a 980 Ti, but I have to be realistic price-wise... :eek:
     
  12. minisnooken

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    What GPU is required for beamng on mid settings?
     
  13. VeyronEB

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    GPU wise anything AMD HD 6000+ series and Nvidia 600+ are decent mid end cards for the game.

    As for those CPUs the FX chip is a quad core which means that it will be compatible with any game where as some modern games still lack dual core support. There are also quite a few other benefits to using the quad core like betterr multi tasking.. The i3 is a little bit faster on single core i believe but not massively.

    Either way neither CPU will run more than one or two vehicles and may have trouble running more advanced vehicles.
     
  14. Samuel1995

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    Just a little bit on single thread? :rolleyes: http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/358/AMD_FX-Series_FX-4350_vs_Intel_Core_i3_i3-4170.html

    I wonder what FX chip you refer to as "Quad core", due to their modular architecture a FX 8xxx could be considered a 4 core CPU but, it is actually a 8 core CPU with 4 shared FPU.
     
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    I've got my Christmas list pretty much finalized.

    2x AMD R9 380
    700 modular PSU
    And a 144hz monitor of some description
     
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    why 2x 380 when you can get 1 390x instead?
    It's probably worth it
     
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    Oh he removed his mention of CPU's .-.

    Well it made sense when i wrote it lol

    This.

    While SLI works fine, a few games don't support it (e.g BeamNG) meaning that its going to be super under used. The 390x is faster anyway and one chip is always better than two.

    And if you ever want to upgrade then you can always just get another 390x or even 390 further down the road as AMD has quite good SLI scaling.
     
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  18. SixSixSevenSeven

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    AMD is crossfire rather than SLI ;)



    Hmm, my HDD loves to sit at 51c after a gaming session, SSD 40 although concerns me less as flash can hit about 60-70 or so. May have to move it :/
    Obviously its not the HDD load itself that forces it that high rather the ambient temps in that area.
     
  19. VeyronEB

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    Yes. If you want, but its almost exactly the same thing. Scalable link interface (SLI) is the technical name for it, Crossfire is just a marketing thing to somewhat differentiate the two (similar to how Freesync and G-sync are but on an even more basic scale). While there are some small differences between the two such as a slightly better multi card scaling on AMD. The technology is pretty much the same.
     
  20. redrobin

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    I actually undermined the 390x. I never realized exactly what a powerhouse one of those cards is and I honestly thought that two 380s would trump it, inherently, I was wrong, and will end up saving about $50-100. Possibly a whole hell of a lot more, because I don't think that I'll need that PSU upgrade.
     
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