Oh you're the one who should facepalm right? It's funny how you're trying to argue with physics experts(and I don't mean myself, cause I'm no expert) when you're not even able to remember what you yourself wrote like half a day ago. If you think really hard, you might realise that I'm responding to your "you won't see a Countach or Testarossa lighting up the tires"... Please, allow me to help you out, let me refresh your memory: So I guess you're on the wrong side of the fence. If a car is able to do donuts THAT easily, it should be clear to anyone with eyes that if you mash the gas pedal straight into the floor from a standstill, you'll simply spin out and end up in a hedge. Like I said, you don't usually see cars like this being driven like that though, because it's pretty bad on the clutch and most owners aren't stupid enough to wreck their expensive sportscar... If you want proof in the form of another video, this is what happens when you try to floor one when you're already up to a good amount of speed while trying to do a turn... Remember that this is a WAY newer sportscar than the Bolide, so it handles better too. And once again, tires on these things are much wider than on the Bolide. That's weird right, he managed that from a rolling start, a Diablo! How's that possible?! Must be fake right, 'cause 80's sportscars don't even spin out when you floor them, so there's no way anyone could spin-out a 90's sportscar from a rolling start!... At least, according to some of you... That said, yes, we do know by now that the tires aren't perfect causing the cars to be unstable at high speed. For good measure... Let's watch another video of a sportscar with wider tires than the Bolide and thus more grip, still spinning out, after mashing the gas a bit too far(not even flooring it), and not even from a dead stop.. Also, thanks to TheAdmiester for reminding me that the Gallardo is AWD... Didn't even realise that. And yes, the rear wheels do get more torque. But it's still AWD, so it's still less likely to spin than a similar RWD car. (This vid is so fake, obviously, because there's no way a sportscar like this can spin out, right? Not a car THIS advanced WITH AWD...)
These videos are awful to watch for a mechanic. The idiot in the orange diablo burned his clutch @00:17 sec you can even see the smoke coming from the gearbox.
The funniest thing about those videos Mythbuster posted is that the Gallardo is AWD, the most stable of drivetypes for launching. If you manage to spin out a technological AWD beast from 2003, you can sure as hell spin out an 80s RWD model with skinnier tires and less tech behind it.
I don't wanna be a smartass, but.. The Gallardo puts more torque on the rear wheels than on the front + it's a mid engine. AWD doesn't mean it's 50/50.
It might not be 50/50 but it's not 100/0 either. It's still putting power to the front wheels and giving you extra stability over ANYthing RWD.
Yes, with a tendency to oversteer. Which should be electronically rebalanced when the sensors recognize that the rear end is getting slip. edit: I was just referring to where you said "If you manage to spin out a technological AWD beast from 2003". Sounded like it's something unusual, it could happen to anyone, it's not hard to spin out in such a car, the v10 is a monster.
Alpha. Nuff said. If you don't like how the clivetta handles, make your own 80's supercar that handles better, otherwise your in no position to say how badly made their product is.
I'm not stupid, I understand how cars work in real life. I race my RX-8 on an actual track. I play GRID, not 2, and yes it is much less realistic because it's a game. Don't assume we don't know anything about actual driving. - - - Updated - - - I'm not saying it's shit, I was simply pointing out problems and offering suggestions on how to potentially resolve the problems. Calm down. - - - Updated - - - Holy shit, nearly 800 Hp? Is that even possible for an 80's sports car?
It makes 290 hp at most. I'm not sure where you're getting those figures from. I, and many other people, have no problem controlling the Bolide, even with keyboard. I just don't understand what's so difficult about it. Be precise with your steering and throttle. Yes, it veers at 100 mph. If we could wave a magic wand and fix it we would. But most of the time you're way below that speed and I think the handling characteristics are fine.
Actually, when launching, RWD cars are better than AWD cars. However, once up to speed, AWD cars have much better traction and handling.
And how might that be? With AWD you have the front and rear wheels working in unison, working together to keep the car stable and stop and wheels from going rogue. With a RWD car you're more prone to spinning out if you floor it because the back wheels try to overtake the front wheels.
That's the power at the wheels which is multiplied by the gear ratios. All cars make a ton of power in first gear. The engine itself only makes 290. Look at the torque curve debug.
I have no point to make, and I believe that my post does not contribute to this thread in any way, shape or form. But watch the video.
Hah that's cool! I've tried it in 4th gear, cause that's usually a 1:1 transmission and the data was correct. Thx for reminding me how realistic this game is.
Are you kidding me? Explain your logic. A RWD car has about 60 percent of the grip on the rear. (Aren't rear wheels a little bigger then front wheels? Please correct me if I'm wrong.) And when you have AWD, you have 40 percent MORE grip to launch you off the line.
Well rwd cars can launch really hard because the weight transfers to the rear of a car but a 4wd will have more grip simply because theres more tire propelling it. But you already knew that lol. The only way 4wd is bad for launching is that they tend to break halfshafts and stuff because the wheels hook hard where as a rwd would usually spin before breaking things. evo breaks transfer case http://youtu.be/VGm2eczYyGA?t=26s but this stuff happens to rwd drag cars too http://youtu.be/VGm2eczYyGA?t=26s but yea a 4wd will have more grip and not tend to spear because of wheel spin
Grip is determined by the type, pressure, and width of tyre along with surface friction coefficient, suspension setup, vehicle weight, weight bias, and where the centre of gravity is at any given time. I have no idea where you got "60 percent of the grip on the rear" from, and neither do you. Very few road cars have differing tyre widths. I don't know why you're trying to disprove someone else's comment when you base your own off conjecture.
