If I had the money for one of those cars I'd have a few tuner cars and I'd hit up @airman426 and ask him what plane I should buy. I had the pleasure of being a back seat pilot of a 40 year old decathlon and it was a blast. My friend was surprised I could keep within 50 feet of altitude and make precise course changes with no real flight experience. I'd love to think my video game flight experience played a bigger role but the plane is a god dammed go cart with wings. Weighed half what my Honda does and the stick is connected to cables that operate the control surfaces and you could feel everything. Really satisfying and sorry for the tangent I just went on but what else is new.
Maybe not in some areas, but in mine heavily lifted new trucks are seen as "cool" by a certain portion of society. Example Now to start I hold nothing against what the trucks are capable of off-road or in a mud bog, however on the road they are useless in my opinion; These trucks are too high to have proper visibility, tow anything without using some sort of adapter or even use the bed for hauling big things. It doesn't help my perception of the trucks due to the types of owners I often see of these things, as usually they care little for other drivers on the road, or for other peoples cars in parking lots and are a nuisance at night since their already bright running lights are now effectively high beams. Furthermore they are obviously unsafe, as the bumpers are far above any safe height. Amusingly As far as I can tell, these vehicles are akin to what most other cities think of BMW drivers; hog the road, never use turn signals and act like the world revolves around them. Furthermore for any of the newer ones, I almost never see them in any way dirty or even slightly weathered, hell I can guarantee most have never even been on anything more technical than a light gravel road, or a flat grass field. I will admit dislike the drivers probably more than the vehicles themselves on their own, however lifted trucks (usually newer ones) seem to have their stereotype of drivers come as a pair to the vehicle, so that's partially my reasoning for my dislike of these vehicles. I could understand owning one if These people lived in the countryside, however 99% live in the city, often in nice neighborhoods where there is no need for 5 feet of ground clearance, yet the vehicle gets used similarly to a corolla, and would never be taken on anything more technical than a corolla could handle. /endrant
There aren't a lot of cars I "hate" per say. A majority I find mediocre. For instance, I don't understand the hype and love for 911's, they're just a fancy rear-engined German sports car. But people worship the things. I don't get it, it's just a car. There are plenty of cars in the world that are better than it, there are plenty of cars that are worse. This thread is really stupid, it's all opinionated and is the definition of what is wrong with modern society. Now 2728347623485156454365 people are going to tell me about how wrong I am about the 911 because of this fact.
nope, might be one of the more balanced ones here. though the love for the 911, while I don't share (or like the car) I can kinda get, it's a car with history, that's about all I see
Porsche is what you would call an enthusiast brand. Yes they are overhyped and having spent a lot of time working on them, I can tell you they suck to work on compared to jap cars but not as bad as audis. Having 60 percent of the weight over the rear wheels is somewhat of a novelty, and it really likes to understeer on the edge wich makes it really good for a street car. They are VERY stable at hi speed but all of the non gt3 911s are essentially luxury cars since the late 80s. The brand is not what it once was and the competition these days is MUCH more fierce. I still love the brand but beyond a 924s I can't see myself ever owning one. I want something a bit funkier. Edit: @redrobin i totally get where your coming from about 911s tho.
I guess I take the internet more seriously than I should...I've never been good at sarcasm detection in real life, and it's even harder when you can't see facial expressions and hear the tone of voice.
its easy you just search an r34 coupe,thats it,easy --- Post updated --- agree,they likely just jealous --- Post updated --- meh!
I personally dislike Chrysler PT Cruisers. They don't look very good, albeit somewhat sporty, but they don't really have any sportiness in handling or power.
The PT Cruiser was one of those cars that's wildly popular for an instant and then becomes the object of derision afterward. The later availability of a 5MT Turbo (same drivetrain as the Neon SRT4?) didn't seem to help much, the later convertible definitely didn't help at all. The Chevy HHR was just a me-too of the PT Cruiser and I don't even really think it had the same "magic" - Bob Lutz was the guy behind both of them, by the way.
Seems like people have blown the idea of this thread out of proportions. First of all, these are peoples opinions and may not apply to everyone. Secondly, many of the cars listed by myself and others so far are here not because of whether they are genuinely good or not, but rather the atmosphere and people generally associated with them. As well as personal opinions about style, ect. I'm not saying the supra is a bad car at all. I bet its a bloody great car to drive and okay to live with too. Its just the annoying fanboyism and hideous chromies/bodykits that are generally associated with them. I do disagree with some of the posts, especially about skylines and AE86's in particular. However I do acknowledge other peoples opinions and am able to see what they are on about. Oh btw just a piece of my opinion, AE86's were made over 30 years ago. Of course they wont make as much power as something packed with the technology and development of modern cars. However in my opinion, the performance figures of stock cars from that era are useless cause its going to be modified anyway. Looks are subjectional, personally I love the boxy 80's styling. Just my 2c
I can see how people might hate the WRX STI (Subaru) but I think it's mostly the owners who rice them which makes them hate them. Subarus don't deserved to be riced. I am a big Subaru fan (you may make fun of me) but I am not a ricer. I actually drive the cars like they're meant to instead of fitting them with 10 million inch exhausts and placing "STANCE NATION" or "ILLEST" stickers all over the windows. The only sticker on my car says "SUBARU" and that's just a small white sticker in the corner of my back window. I take my 2015 WRX to the mountains and shift approximately every 15 seconds. Lucky for me, I bought a manual WRX. It's actually better to get out of snow than automatics in my experience. I had a 2009 Impreza, and I once got stuck, and I drive putting it in reverse, drive, reverse, drive, etc. Nothing. My 2015 WRX? I put it in reverse, 1st, reverse, 1st, reverse, and then I got unstuck. Both had the standard Symmetrical AWD. The cars I hate most? All of them are mostly from GM: PT Cruiser a) They're god awful looking in my opinion. The headlights and taillights. Chrysler, this isn't the 1930s. b) The interior is really bad. I'd rather sit on an unsecured park bench inside my car than sit in those seats. I sat in one for about an hour on a ride. My god they feel like you're sitting on someone. c) Special Editions. Why, Chrysler? Nobody bought them anyway, and neither would I. Especially the ones with fake wood paneling. The only thing I like about the PT Cruiser? When it's destroyed by a licensed professional : youtube.com/watch?v=MBFd7LI44XQ Chevy SSR and HHR (they're both bad in basically the same ways) a) And now...our new Chevy SSR and HHR! Nobody will buy them! They were right. Seriously, it was made from 2003 to 2006 (SSR) and 2005-2011 (HHR), and looked like 50's concepts. b) SSR Factory muscle trucks just aren't good IMO. A normal pickup truck with everything gutted out and then a big V8 is put in? That's cool. Why is a factory muscle truck not good? Because everything is made to the manufacturer's thoughts, where as a custom muscle truck is customized to the user's thoughts. c) HHR Again, General Motors, this is not the 50s. And who would buy this in a wagon or panel wagon form? I would buy a panel van that is actually meant for what I would do with a panel van. Cadillac Escalade a) GM, SUVs were fine before they needed heated this and heated that and V8 this and fueled by turds that. (The base Escalade is really fueled by turds.) b) The taillights. Cars never needed straight vertical rear lights that went from the bumper to the moon. Cadillac isn't the only one to do this, ahem Volvo, but Volvos are actually decent cars. Cadillacs? Not so much. And that is coming from an insane American. The only good car from Cadillac IMO is the 2011 CTS-V Wagon. c) No matter how hard you make your advertisements try to persuade me, Cadillac, the Escalade will never work at luxury. So, yes, I am an American lunatic, but most American cars I don't like. The Challenger Hellcat on the other hand? vroooooooooooooom!
likely japan car also weird,like toyota sienta,useless scion fr-s and more --- Post updated --- me too,but for american cars,they likely can't design a car on that year,allmost of their models was ugly,for example mercury cougar, ( the rear design was weird)
I've never really understood the appeal of Escalade's, I guess they are just big. I don't really hate any cars though, they are all cool for one reason or another.
The 2016 Corvette. It can't even drive without loosing traction, it can't turn, even on Motor Trend it was somewhere from 10th to 7th on the 2015 Motor Trend Best Driver's car. If you haven't seen the video, here it is:
OH MY GOD YES. This. There are so many of these where I live. I see the point of them off-road, but on-road I am SURPRISED that they aren't illegal when they're 100 feet off the ground and make as much smoke as an industrial district in the 1800's. Even in my relative's Hyundai Santa Fe I can barely see over the back of these pointless metal objects. They're good off-road, but I think manufacturers and the EPA should make people pay FULL PRICE for 2 pickup trucks just so they can use one to tow the other to the off-roading trails. Of course, rednecks will be very angered, but these trucks pollute the environment, they're very dangerous in traffic, and the drivers are (keyword: USUALLY) usually fat beer-consuming rednecks who only know two words: YEEEEEEE HAAAAAA!
I don't really care about the pollution angle, but I still think buying a pickup truck or SUV when you don't absolutely need one is very definitely antisocial. They block other driver's views of cross traffic at intersections and they accelerate and corner like molasses because the drivers are always afraid of understeering or tipping over (it doesn't help that most crossovers are probably wheeled by the kind of people who would think "apex" was a new fitness program). There's a very twisty road near me where SUVs like to get right in front of me and go 15 MPH under the limit, and that's when I'm not getting stuck behind a box van, a big rig, heavy equipment, or someone who's just afraid to use even a fraction of their car's capabilities. The delivery trucks and heavy equipment are justifiable, but I almost think it would be worth it to phone in the crossovers and run-of-the-mill slowpokes for obstructing traffic (assuming the speed advisory signs don't nullify that).
There are advantages to having lifted trucks on normal roads, because you are so high you are able to see over most other cars, and IMO anything smaller than a pickup truck or an SUV is just normally too small to fit an average sized person. I honestly don't know how people deal with cars that aren't SUVs Trucks vans or some american cars(but they are too low imo).
I think it's more a matter of taste than fitinsideability (that's a word now, deal with it). I'm a perfectly average 5'10" and could still move the seat back another 3-4 inches in my mom's Fiat 500 if I wanted too. Same with my VW Fox before I sold it. Some people like small cars (Like me. I laugh whenever I park next to SUV's or trucks and my roof is level with their door handles) and others like big ones. As for 'cool' cars I don't like, I'd have to say pretty much anything muscle. I've been window shopping for cars from the early '70s lately (one of my favourite eras) and it's incredibly frustrating because I like crappy base-model sedans, but the only cars people have held on to are the higher end sport models (because that's what normal people like). The cars that people actually owned 40-50 years ago are almost all gone while the Mach 1's and SS's are what's left.
