"Cool" cars you hate

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  1. Cowboy_Leader

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    Wut? I think you got the wrong thread, this isn't the cooked rice hater thread
     
  2. simonfrat123

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    Jaguars look cool but at unreliable
     
  3. SixSixSevenSeven

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    except 90% of the cars posted so far have been hate at ricers.


    So we have concluded that ricers are hated.
     
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    Most modern supercars (especially lamborghinis). My main reason for this is that they are wildly overrated. They are good cars, and they're quite fast, but people tend to jizz themselves over these cars disproportionately compared to anything else on the road. They're fast, and good looking (Although I would argue the proportions of most new supercars are far too agressive to be enjoyable) but that's it. Impracticality, bad fuel economy, bad reliability, high and expensive maintenance and low space are all problems that come standard with any new Lamborghini or Ferrari. These are fine though, as the pleasure of getting to enjoy such a refined motor-carriage will surely outweigh the car's flaws, right? ....right?

    Heeeelll no.
    While you may be imagining carving through a back road and taking in the beautiful scenery, the reality is that at any moment you will be constantly watched. If you're not being filmed from someone's apartment, you're being constantly chased around by retards with cameras whose only intentions seem to be getting a good instagram shot, and pestering you about how much it costs.

    That reason, and only that one, is why I hate the idea of owning these cars.
     
  5. SixSixSevenSeven

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    I have a different reason.

    You don't own one for reliability or practicality, certainly not for fuel economy. I couldnt care about those things. What I do care about, WHERES MY GOD DAMN STICK SHIFT
     
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    That aswell, sadly people who would actually care for manual transmissions in these cars can't afford them, and those who can afford them would prefer a dual clutch automatic with a babysitter mode.
     
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    Rolls Royce (all models) are cool but overrated, you pay so much cause of the name!
     
  8. Cowboy_Leader

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    Don't the majority of us hate rice?
     
  9. amarks240

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    People with cowboy and shot gun in their names, sure.
     
  10. Cowboy_Leader

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    Well, I do have some rice I like
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  11. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Just about everyone without a honda reference somewhere in their profile ;)
     
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    I have no choice but to take that one lying down. It should also be noted, at the time of this response I am indeed lying down. We laugh at the ricers who spend engine swap money in exhaust tips and rims and coilovers, but hate is such a strong word. I save words like "hate" for the world's worst tragedies, like ford's 4 liter v6.
     
  13. SixSixSevenSeven

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    I do have a love/hate relationship with VTECs. Interesting and revolutionary when it first came out. But something honda to this day still havent taken full advantage of leading to hopelessly lacking in torque motors. I'd take say a subaru FA20 over anything honda labelled right now.
    Though i still want to see them make a VTEC V8. They wont, but I want to see it.
     
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    I have to say I really don't hate any cars. Everytime I get behind the wheel of anything, I feel at ease and awed with the technology involved. I don't see the point of hating on Tesla, because we all know Elon Munsk will eventually be emperor of the moon or something like that. Best to get on his good side now while you have the chance.
     
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    I really don't think the torque is that bad for a k20a considering it has an 11.7 to 1 ratio as opposed to the 12.5 ratio the fa20 has and makes 8 more foot pounds than the fa20. And forget boosting the fa20 because they packaged that 12.5 to 1 ratio with cast pistons. Also, I've seen 3 or 4 k20a engines that made 220whp with a cold air intake and a cat delete with a dyno tune. The best I've seen a local fa20 do was 192whp and he had full intake headers and exhaust, and he got tuned on e85. Not impressed by subaru at all. 245 whp stock on an sti? I'll make that with cams and the supporting na mods on a k20a and still the head won't come off. I liked the brz until I drove one. Made wish I could fit into a miata or afford an elise. One more thing, why have subaru make the engine and have Toyota make the body? Toyota makes way better engines than subaru and subaru makes way nicer bodies than toyota. That whole partnership was ass backwords. The 2zz is rad.
     
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    You'll find the FA20D contains toyota derived stuff in it. The dual port and direct injection and VVT systems for example are simple relabelling of the toyota parts, transmission is also toyota.
    Toyota also make better handling stuff.

    Of course the FA20F drops the toyota injection system for plain direct injection (though I personally see this as a notable omission, port injection can really help low end torque versus direct, yet direct will then handle the compression ratios at higher RPM a little more cleanly, having both they could have squeezed a little more potential out of the engine). Then sticks a turbo on it. I'm a man that likes some boost ;)

    I'd quite like to take a subaru MV and swap a modern FA20 into it, or an EJ. Though for the cost of a full built motor in either circumstance, either works and my mind is saying stick to the broader power band of the FA.


    WRX STI's do not feature an FA20 engine, so he either doesnt have an STI or doesnt have an FA20. Its an EJ25 running more boost in the STI, yet even with the extra boost and more top end, they really arent alot quicker, the FA20 picks up its torque that much lower and holds it so much longer that it nearly matches it. Power figures alone mean jack shit.
     
  17. amarks240

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    He had an early 90s rhd imported from Japan. In Canada he paid around 6k for it shipped so I don't blame him. I don't know if it had an ej22 or 20, but he could not keep it oiled right at hi rpm. 40 psi oil pressure at 5k is not enough. I measured 70. I just found that whole marriage between the 2 companies to be very odd. I'm all about the ugly duckling 04 sti.
     
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    early 90s the FA didnt exist so would definitely have been EJ series. Sounded like you were referring to an FA making however much wheel horsepower.

    And yeah oil tends to be major issue in the EJ series, rectifiable, but issue none the less. Also an issue in the FA, though thats solvable mostly through a beefier pump, need a tad more on the EJ.
     
  19. amarks240

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    I did make it sound like the power figure was for the FA I apologize. A car I drove and liked that might be considered a rival to the frs is a BMW z3 3.0. Say what you will, but it felt way faster than it was and it shifted nice.
     
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    I can't express my displeasure for the BMW M3's and M5's enough (recent models). I respect the engineering and work BMW has put into making them preform well and whatnot, but to me they just seem so generic. It could possibly be because where I live there are a lot of them, but then again I never liked them before I moved to where I live today. Lots of kids at my High-school have them and drive like dicks, and fit the stereotype of not using blinkers ever or thinking they're the fastest thing on the road. Which actually they are pretty impressive cars that are fast, but you know. There is always going to be a faster vehicle on the road, and they just don't seem to think so. Its like a disorder lmao. Anyways that's Just my two cents though. (I got a list of cars I could talk about but I am far to lazy to do so.) Peace.
     
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