I ordered a product from miniinthebox and it didn't arrive within 40 days, they sent a second one with tracked postage, the first arrived about 10 days later. About 20 days after that the second arrived but I was not able to decline delivery. I sent their customer support a message asking what they would like me to do (such as circling the return address and posting it back). But I just got a canned delivery time message back stating their delivery times were 10-20 days with the tracking number (which confirms it has been delivered). I guess I am just gonna have to keep hold of the package for a month or two to see if they ever contact me about it?
Ku Klux Klan. (american) Phineas Priesthood. (american) Army Of God. (american) The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord (american, dissolved by FBI, considered the 2nd most domestic terrorist group of the time, largely placed under media blackout) Aryan Nations (american, seems to be a pattern here) Aryan Republican Army (american, Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh may have had ties with this group and with the Army Of God) Lords Resistance Army (Ugandan, finally a change of pace) Manmasi National Christian Army (Indian) National Socialist Council of Nagaland (India) National Liberation Front of Tripura (India) Countless african ones. Gunpowder plot (england) Yep. Totally no christian terrorists at all. Also been claims of the IRA having religious motivators, and some bundle the various inquisitions in with things (spanish inquisition etc). --- Post updated --- Western media have a great disparity in how they report things. If its a middle eastern person, they are immediately a terrorist, regardless of whether claims have yet been made. Yet the guy that fatally shot and stabbed a british MP here in the UK recently while screaming "Britain first" (A "christian" "political" group in the UK) was labelled a troubled individual initially and has only since been branded a terrorist. Guy that shot up the planned parenthood centre in the US recently, branded a troubled individual, yet he just carried out a mass killing in the name of christianity. Austrian mass shooting recently, troubled individuals, not terrorists. Anders Breivik, much more emphasis on him as mentally troubled than terrorist. The media sheeples people into thinking the middle east and islam produce terrorists. But with 22% of the global population following islam, if it was a religion of violent takeover, dont you think they are doing a crap job of it.
Java may not succ as bad as I thought it did. I'm making an object-oriented toaster simulator in order to figure out inheritance. I figured out why I didn't like Java: it's too feature-rich for small demo programs (it's pointless to write Hello World in Java).
There's still a difference. Christian terrorists have the Bible read all wrong, and yes, they probably are crazy. With Islam, it's the moderate ones who are reading everything wrong. As far as doing a poor job of taking over, I have half a mind to say they're just waiting and nibbling. It's a lot easier to take something over if you do it quietly and gradually instead of starting a bloody war where it will immediately make everyone hate you. Furthermore, some of your examples of "Christian terrorism" were perpetrated on other sects of Christians, more akin to the Sunni-Shite conflict than the Islam-Everyone Else conflict. Also, anyone with "Aryan" in their name is probably practicing a heavily corrupted form of Christianity; remember that one of the strategies used by the original Nazis when they first gained power in Germany was to infiltrate and corrupt the church, then use its teachings as a superficial veneer for their racist, Darwinist ideology.
The KKK was/is motivated by racism. They believe that any non-white people are inferior and need to be controlled by white people, they had some power in the Southern U.S during reconstruction, but they were not doing what they did because they were Christian, they were doing what they did because they were a bunch of racist bigots who wanted the old south back, they even targeted Catholics. The army of God, yes that is actually a christian terrorist organization, and a perfect example of hypocrisy. We can all look at them as an example of doing the wrong thing for the right reasons. Opposing abortion, that is noble enough, but killing people and holding hostages in order to show your opposition to killing people. . .not a very effective campaign. Everything they do for their cause stands against what Christianity is. The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord is not Christian, so much as it is Christian Identity. The two sound similar in name but are a little different in principle. Christian Identity is basically another white supremacist group/belief descended from British Israelism. Basically they think that all white people are descendant from the Israelites and that Jews are the children of satan. They also believe that all non whites must be enslaved and exterminated to serve the white race in the new Heavenly kingdom. Nice folks. Anyway, the CSA was a group of these nuts who holed up in a secret compound and trained to revolt against the U.S government, until the FBI arrested their leaders that is. Phineas Priesthood, is a Christian Identity title that a few people have given themselves over the years. These people, who are not exactly a group because they share no ties to each other, are self proclaimed vigilantes who follow the "teachings" of a book called "Vigilantes of Christendom". They are opposed to interracial relationships, the mixing of races, homosexuality, abortion, multiculturalism, Jews, and taxation. They commit hate crimes and anti-government crimes in order to try and advance their cause. Aryan Nations, this is a lot like the other Christian Identity, racist, white supremacist movements. This one is linked to the others such as the CSA and the Phineas Priesthood. Aryan Republican Army, this is another white supremacist, Christian Identity group, and as you said they also had ties to the CSA, AOG. . . The Gunpowder plot, this was an attempted bombing by a group of English Catholics because they were angry about James I's intolerance of Catholicism. Now I would like you to look at your list. Most of these groups are very small, and all of them are condemned by the Catholic Church and other large Christian churches. They are just whacks who commit terrible crimes in the name of what they think is just (not unlike ISIS?). Oh man is that incorrect. After every terrorist attack that has occurred in the U.S, such as the Orlando shooting, the U.S news media, and even the government officials just blame the 2nd Amendment, they say that the problem isn't terrorists, it is guns. The media here just jumps all over pointing blame for terrorist attacks, they say it is our fault because we are being "mean" to the Muslims, they say we need to abolish the 2nd amendment, they point the blame everywhere but at Islam. The very number you gave is testament to how they are not doing a "crap job". While these "Christian Terrorist groups" you say are so dangerous are small enough, and weak enough, to be taken down by local police and a few dozen FBI field agents, The massive Islamic terrorist organizations are strong enough to resist a formal military force. The Islamic terrorist organizations ultimately aim for a goal of creating a Muslim Caliphate with Sharia law. Either you are Just like them, you pay heavy taxes to be unlike them, or you are an infidel and must die. Go read the ISIS handbook if you are curious about the radical Islamic Goals. If the world of Radical Islam sounds better to you than the world we live in today, then I totally respect that. --- Post updated --- Oh by the way, out of curiosity I just checked the rules, and I saw this: "While this is the off-topic section, we still want to keep things under control. Discussion should be at least somewhat related to games, cars, or other BeamNG-ish things. No political posts. No spammy "game" threads. No big arguments or debates either." So SixSixSevenSeven, and Shotgun Chuck, we should probably stop.
Just watched LCD soundsystem play at Glastonbury 2016 on BBC iplayer. To anyone who has access to it I would highly, highly recommend giving it a watch. Incredible performance. http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ewcj5v/acts/aj6n5v#p03yk1t8
Pfft, if mods want to moan that I've argued religion, I have the argument that I'm not the one being a narrow minded bigot discriminating based upon religion. Read a Qur'an steeple, the extremists are the misreaders, not the moderate. --- Post updated --- Nah, its awful
I totally agree, three people with different opinions just had an informed discussion on a highly controversial topic and there was no insulting or flame wars! That has got to be some kind of first on the internet! I believe my stance is much closer to Scelerophibia, As far as me being a bigot, I would like to quote the American Declaration of Independence to show my view on that: "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"
Xenophobia n. A fear of strangers or foreigners. n. A strong antipathy or aversion to strangers or foreigners. Bigotry n. The attitude, state of mind, or behavior characteristic of a bigot; intolerance. OK fine Wordnik, Bigot n. One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. Well that's everyone in human history to some degree or another. The interesting part here is "intolerant of those who differ". There are very few people anywhere who are 100% intolerant of everyone who differs from them in any way, so when talking about intolerance it's helpful to know who's being intolerated, and why. James Smith, I think, did a good job of describing why people might not tolerate Islam.
