Bruckell LeGran

Because people who don't actually know about cars will automatically criticize any FWD car, without knowing that when it comes to big heavy comfy cars like this, FWD actually makes it handle better, and leaves more interior room for extra comfort.

 

I find fwd more reliable and it handles better than rwd, i dont understand why most people doesn't prefer it.

 

yeah but MERICAN MUSCLE

 

This car is going to be amazing. To destroy.

 

I find that with fwd cars, everything is crammed into a small area, therefore, it is fairly complex, and hard to modify. My favorite car (Nissan 240sx) is a rwd car. Everything is in reach, and is much easier to diagnose problems. And though I haven't driven many cars, it is the best handling car I've driven. Other people might think differently, but that's the way I see it. (Oh, and burnouts )

 

My grandma's '93 Oldsmobile 88 royal had ABS standard, heck, my grandpa's '89 Silverado even has ABS.

 

Boy racer mentality: if you care which wheels of your cars are driven, you probably also know what "torque steer" means.

RWD has very little logical/practical reason to exist in everyday driving, but it's still the best choice for sport-oriented vehicles: rear wheel driven vehicles can generally handle better, provided the driver can manage it. Also, weight transfer during acceleration can improve grip and traction. An FR (front engine, rear drive) layout can give closer-to-optimal weight distribution thanks to the engine and transmission being moved farther in the back of the vehicle, and longitudinal orientation of the drivetrain allows for the installment of higher displacement/more powerful engines.

None of these advantages are relevant enough for a daily commuter, but can be vital for higher-end vehicles. There's nothing wrong with FWD per se, expecially not in a car like this.

 

It depends if you are the sort who has an intuition for what a car is doing when you drive it. For me an RWD car feels better because the back takes an active part in what I'm doing. Currently my little Ford Ka being a front wheel drive there's a feeling of numbness to the back wheels since it's just along for the ride. FWD feels floaty when you try to be aggressive which is not a problem for me in something so tiny and light but I can see that being horrifying in a larger car with a lot of weight in it.

 

Well i'm 16 so i dont have a car but i once drowe my mom's 307 and a charger srt in a car meeting, i know they are very different cars but 307 felt more stable and reliable
Also it is easier to lose control in rwd cars

 

I think this car should be bumper sticker bombed. So I made some ideas.

 

The Mid engine, FWD layout which is sadly no longer used provides a great solution to the "small area" problem. The citroen DS is a great example, the engine bay is basically like a RWD car, but in reverse. Bonus points for easy transmission access.

Couldn't have said it better myself, people who choose a daily driver based on what the driven wheels are might aswell just get a bicycle and be done with it.

 

For me its easy to choose between FWD and RWD, RWD is for drifting and serious racing, FWD is just fun to throw around when lap times do not count. RWD with open diff and soft suspension is almost pointless(looking at my e39 BMW), when a cheap and light FWD can be very fun to drive. On-topic: I also assume that the LeGran would be FWD, really soft and rather gutless, with a "sport" version that has more power and stiffer suspension. I do hope it will have something interesting about it though, for example a digital dash or super cushioned cloth seats.

 

@roland91 I totally agreee. Even though I like big cushy RWD sedans.
My dad drove a 1990 Oldsmobile 98 Regency Brougham for a while. It was slow, but still really cool. Vastly cushioned seats. It had a digital gauge thing where there are a few buttons to scroll through different gauges, while the main speedo was the rectangular one with a long needle. FWD and a 3800, maybe 160hp new. I'd love to see something like that.

 

Understeer plus you have issues with torque steer when you start tuning for performance.

I don't hate fwd as a few of my favorite cars are FWD (and are Hondas)

 

A few reasons. First is torque steer; many T-FWD cars have unequal-length half-shafts, which causes unequal wind-up, which causes the steering wheel to develop a mind of its own when you stomp on the gas. Most cars apparently pull to the right, but mine pulls to the left, i.e. straight towards oncoming traffic. Wonderful.

The next is weight transfer. In a RWD car, as you accelerate, the weight of the car transfers onto the driven wheels, increasing traction. In a FWD car, the weight transfers away from the driven wheels, causing excessive wheelspin or, even worse, wheelhop.

The third is closely related and it has to do with tire utilization. RWD tends to have a more even weight distribution than FWD, which improves braking and cornering. I'm not quite sure how to best explain this, but basically, if you compared a FWD car and a RWD car of equal weight with equal tires, assuming for the sake of easier wording that the RWD car is also slightly nose-heavy (as most are), the RWD car will usually be using more of its rear tires' grip when the fronts reach their maximum. I suspect a certain cartoon has mentioned some sort of FWD braking advantage before, but that is likely due to a weight advantage (no driveshaft, for one thing); theoretically, a lightweight RWD car (think small roadster) should outbrake a FWD one.

The fourth is once again closely related to the previous point, which is that RWD allows both ends of the car to make a positive contribution to the movement of the vehicle. Not only does the more even tire utilization allow higher maximum cornering and braking grip (I hope I have that right), but whatever grip is left in the rear tires when you're cornering can then be used to accelerate forward. By contrast, in a FWD car, the front wheels obviously have to handle everything, so if the front tires already have nothing left to give, any attempt to apply power will reduce the car's cornering ability as a matter of course. This combined with the excessive nose weight of a FWD car is what causes the stereotypical tendency of an FF's front tires to wash out early, causing slow, depressing understeer... and if an FF is poorly set up or poorly driven, you might end up with a situation in which the front tires suddenly have all the grip in the world while the rears are barely on the ground, in which case any steering input will lead to psychotic snap oversteer. The same tendency for driven wheels to go wide when overloaded can actually be a benefit in a RWD car, as it creates an oversteer bias that could, if I'm not just talking out my backside, be harnessed (with sufficient skill) into a tendency for the car to rotate itself neatly and quickly out of a corner - something an FF is never going to do.

The fifth is access. If you've ever tried to change spark plugs on a transverse-mounted V-type engine, you'll know what I'm talking about. There's something to be said for a layout that doesn't require you bend your hands and wrists in impossible ways, fish around in deep, blind holes, or screw/unscrew things in a space that gives your ratchet a range of motion of about 0.85 clicks just to perform normal maintenance tasks.

The sixth goes back to what I said before about tire utilization. Having the overweighted front wheels handle both steering and acceleration means that if you lose either one by overdoing it, you lose both. On a heavily iced road, this could lead to complete loss of control. With a RWD car, meanwhile, if you hit the gas too hard, you still have the front wheels available to you and can still exert some control over the direction the car is going in, while if you steer too suddenly or too much and lose front grip, you'll still have some left on the rear with which to control the car.

The seventh is about fun, plain and simple. You can discover this even in an FF with the parking brake; there's just something primally appealing about oversteer.

 

Gabe has already said it will be FWD. Everyone please stop.

 

Yeah, please stop. How dare the people on this forum try to have a civil discussion about physics. smh

 

This is the Bruckell LeGran thread, not the FWD vs. RWD thread.

 

Agreed discuss that in general discussion, we need to stay on topic.

 

The funniest part about this is that I actually just made a thread. Stop discussing it here, discuss it in the thread I made.