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New incoming drivetrain code questions (powertrain)

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by Josh, Nov 20, 2016.

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  1. Josh

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    Don't know if this is in the right section or not.

    So knowing that the new drivetrain code is coming, will it have features similar to those listed below?

    Like for example O/D (overdrive off/on), and "automatic manual modes" like tiptronic or select shift? (for the newer cars like the etk's?)

    Thoughts?
     
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    If Overdrive O/D is implemented i am sure they will need to add new lights on dashboard to indicate if its on or off when toggled... so that's another thing...also for the four wheel drive... i am sure there may be an indicator if 4 low/high is engaged on the dash such as the D or H Series.. and maybe a 2wd indicator
     
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    Yes, that would be the proper way to do it but.. if they end up doing this we could get by with a pop-up message when toggled for a bit. Until they decide to add the indicators to the instrument clusters.
     
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    The biggest achievement of the new powertrain code is actually that it is fully extensible and customizable. You can essentially completely replace what we used to call "drivetrain" with your own code if you so wish.
    That being said, the physical level of the powertrain will support secondary transmissions like an overdrive thing or a range box.
    I don't think that any of our cars will use an overdrive system, so there likely won't be any controlling logic for something like that.

    However, I've spent a long time to make sure that such functionality can easily be implemented by third parties, so only the creativity and skill of the mod creator will limit the features.

    The days of whacky drivetrain hacks are over with this system. A little example: while we currently do not have any hybrids, given a bit of math/physics knowledge and some experience in Lua, you can build a fully working and supported hybrid powertrain in probably less than a day. You could even share your work and let others reuse your code for their own vehicles.
     
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    Wahoo, don't know why my last part was not added in asking, if it would be possible to extend features beyond the official code. Thanks that's great to hear.
     
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    Whoops, long post, forgot about the second question :/

    Currently supported auto/DCT modes are: PRNDSLM

    I'll leave it to you to figure them out :p
     
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  7. Josh

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    Awesome, thanks for taking time to answer these @Diamondback , appreciate it.
     
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    This sounds awesome! I'm thinking of making a crazy drivetrain with a gas turbine coupled to a CVT for the T-series.
     
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    i'm usually one of the few who post these "odd ball" questions lol sometimes a dev will reply and sometimes not.

    When someone does reply, it makes me 100x's more excited for the incoming changes, can't wait.
     
    #9 Josh, Nov 21, 2016
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    There won't be a technical reason holding you back. :)

    The new powertrain basically consists of two main components now: the physical side which replicates the actual hardware (engines, shafts, gearboxes, diffs, etc) and the controlling side that takes care of coordinating the hardware (clutch control, shift points, timing management etc)

    You can fully replace / extend both sides with whatever you want.
     
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    Would a system like Active Yaw Control be possible with this code or would it require a new system entirely?
     
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    What kind of parameters do we have available to us in official form? as far as shifting timing, rpm set points etc? was anything new added in as far as these go?

    Will we finally have a more effective engine braking simulation?
     
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    The control logic would be a bit of a challenge but it's entirely possible.
     
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    This is all WIP so can't really go into much detail there. Shift points are per gear now and full load points can be auto calculated.
    Better engine braking is being looked into, but absolutely no promises there. The combustion engine simulation is still largely the same basic principle, so a few of the drawbacks there carried over.

    But again, someone could easily write a "better" engine simulation and use that instead of the default one.
     
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    Great can't wait, thanks for the info.
     
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    Can we have dual engines to allow for the aforementioned hybrids?
     
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    Is the new system backward compatible? Otherwise, how would that affect mods?
     
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    Compatibility with actual mods is one off the main priority :)
     
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    Great news.

    I'm currently mantaining a mod that could certainly benefit from the new transmission options, but it could be a while before I can fully upgrade it to the new system. Good to know it will probably still work, thanks a lot.
     
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    How about different driving mode like "Normal","Sport","Sport+" and "Track" as the new features in newer car in the next update?
     
    #20 JCX034, Nov 21, 2016
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