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Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. EruptionTyphlosion

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    My grandmother will have something to say about insulting her daily driver (Minus the upgrades)
     
  2. Googlefluff

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  3. Peterbilt

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    I very nearly bought an almost identical truck, it was an 89 2wd 3/4 ton Lariat Ford with a 460, E4OD, and a 4.10 geared Sterling 10.25. It had 69,000 miles and looked, drove, sounded, and smelled like a brand new truck, the only reason I don't have it now is I decided that I couldn't really swing the $1800 the lady was asking for it at the time.
     
  4. redrobin

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    So it runs 10's.

    Buy it. Do it now.
     
  5. Bubbleawsome

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    I need that TourX. That has to be one of the best looking cars I've ever seen.

    The hatch/sedan looks like a mix between a volvo s90 and BMW 5 series grand touring.
     
  6. redrobin

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    My opinion of the TourX has quite decidedly been outweighed.

    Very well, just means the majority of this forum makes mistakes, too. :p
     
  7. Rainvest

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    Yeah, that's the nicest car i've ever seen
     
  8. Googlefluff

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    Nooooooo, the TourX isn't coming to Canada :mad:

    I mean seriously, why not? I was under the impression that wagons were more popular here than in the US. It's not like I was going to buy one anyway, but I would have liked to see them around. At least the sedanback thingamajig is, and looks almost as amazing.

    EDIT: I checked to make sure and I was right; wagon sales are 3.5x what they are in the US. They're so much more common, Mercedes sells the C-Class wagon here despite it not being available in the the States. GM once again showing itself to be completely retarded.
     
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  9. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Ok. So tell me this. Do you not see hypocrisy in his post. "Oh no someone doesn't like American cars". "Oh no these non American cars are all boring, bland, lifeless, suck"
     
  10. Ulrich

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    I just saw a Renault Zoé with a sticker "Nuclear ? No thanks"

    Are those people are stupid or what?
     
  11. VeyronEB

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    "Renault Zoé"

    Yes.
     
  12. Brown_Diplomat

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    I'm starting to like the 1981 Buick Electra's design more than the Cadillac Brougham.
     
  13. Ulrich

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    What a name
     
  14. Brown_Diplomat

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    The reason the domestic scene is stale is because people looked down on cars built after 1973 and were quite picky, people kept bringing stale and boring American cars rather than interesting ones like the 1975 Chevelle Laguna or 1982 Dodge Daytona.
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    The design makes me want to vomit.
     
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  15. skodakenner

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    So today i asked my insurance agent what a alfa giulia qv would cost in insurance. It was quite surprising that it only cost 1700 euros a golf would cost me 3500 euros
     
  16. redrobin

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    Oh my god, I've found it.

    https://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/6142475796.html

    Exactly how I would build one. 20 valve 4A-GE, ITBs, Koni yellows, polly bushings... Just needs stiffer anti-rollbars. Why does it have to be so far away? Why do I have to be so poor?
     
  17. CreasingCurve

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    Nice, but that engine would be way better in one of these.
    1983_Toyota_Corolla_KE70_CS_sedan_2015-07-03_01.jpg

    Did America get this model Corolla? The KE70.
     
  18. redrobin

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    No, you don't understand. There's sentimental value in that car for me. That was my plan for my Corolla. Exactly, right down to every nut and bolt. That's what I wanted to do. I never got the chance.

    I'd pay $10,000 for that car if I had to. I'd pay $30,000. That's how much it means to me.
     
  19. CreasingCurve

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    Sorry dude. Completely forgot about your "corolla of doom". (if thats even what it was named)
     
  20. NGAP NSO Shotgun Chuck

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    For a brief period of desperate times, yes, people were willing to buy anything that got decent gas mileage. But I don't think anyone, then or now, really wanted/wants a tiny little fuel sipper. Now, granted, even the larger foreign cars did get better gas mileage (and were more reliable), and some of the better ones still have a following today - but then that's pretty much SOP.

    That's the thing, though. Datsun 510 drivers in the California canyons never called it "touge" that I've heard of. They drove a foreign car, and would have probably defended their choices to the death if they' had to, but they were still American at heart.

    What I'm talking about here isn't exactly the same as foreign products invading a marketplace. That has to do with dollars, this has to do with culture. What everyone now refers to as "touge" is exactly the same thing as it was before, just with an unnecessary foreign wrapper, and that's what's annoying me. You can drive a Civic, you can love your Civic, but if you're going out of your way to get a JDM center console or whatever, you might have a problem.

    I'm so glad you brought that up, because it actually gave me a good analogy - Americans referring to mountain racing as "touge" is like the idea of the Japanese suddenly getting a Mulholland obsession and using English words like "pass" and "canyon" instead of the perfectly good Japanese word they already have. It would doubtless tick off some people over there too, and it would absolutely be strange. So why do we do the same thing the other way around?

    Also, just because other places do it too doesn't necessarily make it any better. This is a difficult subject to discuss without becoming a hypocrite of some sort, because some foreign cars and engines are actually pretty cool even if they make zero sense to have here (see: any Skyline). But at the same time, it feels like obsession with foreignness has almost become a disease, when it's not just born from lack of historical knowledge. That's what got me riled up in the first place - people from places other than Japan who think of certain things as inherently Japanese when they aren't, because they don't know their own country's automotive history.

    There are foreign cars I like, and American ones I don't. What annoys me is getting the worst mugglemobiles spread around the world while the actually good cars get discontinued in the name of efficiency. I'd be OK with the "world car" concept if it meant us getting the Escort/Focus RS years ago and Australian sedans all along, but when it actually means feeding everyone 1.4L turbo fours, no thanks. It makes sense from a business perspective, but it's incredibly annoying from an enthusiast perspective.

    The problem there is that the cars from about 1974 (when pollution controls started really griefing power outputs) and 1987 (when horsepower started to return) just plain got outshined by the greatness of what we had before and the OKness of what came after, so even if they can make pretty good base material, everyone just immediately thinks "malaise cars" and decides they don't want them. Trying to buy something from before then takes more patience and effort than a lot of people will bother with (especially if they're not well off or are looking for a daily), while the cars that came after mostly end up with drag racers, unless they're fairly new in which case they're also going to be fairly expensive. But all this is beside the point, because how many times do I have to say it, it's not about the specific cars or parts, it's about why people have and use those things. I'm perfectly OK with Japanese and European cars, it's when people start sticking young leaves or fake Euro plates all over them, or start associating all mountain racing everywhere with Japan and Initial D, that I start to get upset, hence my original rant of "love your own country".
     
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