How dare collectors buy cars that they care about with their own money for their own enjoyment. They should understand that the only valid enjoyment is yours and hand the vehicles over immediately. Who cares if they have worked their asses off for 30 years to be able to afford that car that they wanted, they should just hand them over. Because hey, screw capitalism, everyone should just bow down to the one true obvious god who should be bestowed with all that they desire. The price is dictated by supply and demand, if you are part of the demand, then you are equally part of the reason why they are so expensive in the first place, and thus only people with money can afford them. To then go and demonise those people, I lack words to describe this other than, Jealous/Entitled much.
I think you'll find that if there were no collectors that countless cars would have been scrapped or left to rot unrestored because it wouldn't have been viable or worth it. People want the cars and that is why the price is what it is. Collectors are just car fans like everyone else and the best way to experience that is to own them.
My problem isn't with the people who actually enjoy the cars. Over-restoration isn't quite my speed (and probably does contribute to price absurdity), but as long as they're actually driving the cars, I can't see too much of a problem. My problem is with the ones who see the cars as investments, or who only ever drive them onto and off of the trailer. Just let them sit in pristine condition getting traded back and forth at ever-more-absurd prices. I remember reading in a magazine about how some historic drag car - think it was an A/Stock Chevelle - going for $1.2 million at some auction. A reader wrote in to say, roughly, "I get that it has history, but seriously, $1.2 million for a Chevelle? Now everyone with a six-cylinder basket case is going to think it's worth 20 grand!" I think he had the right idea. The good news is that the auction greed circus only really ruined the "big name" cars. So there's another problem here, and it's one I've complained about previously (though for what it's worth, disinterest in domestic cars among millennials seems like a bigger problem on the internet than in real life).
Well to be fair, when they sold for not much, they were only a couple decades old. Now as they get older & older, the price goes higher & higher. Its like the Commodore, you can get used ones for 1k. But as they reach certain milestones in age, the earlier models are starting to get more & more expensive. The fact that they go so cheap is probably why they're starting to skyrocket, because teenagers buy them & then wrap them around power poles & trees
When 60s muscle cars were cheap, they were just old, gas guzzling, smelly, pieces of junk. Highschool parking lots were full of them in the 70s. As they've gotten older they've gotten more collectible. That's how it works.
I agree with that last fact. My dad got a one-owner '67 Olds Delmont 88 with 40k miles and in good condition(With complete service records and no accidents) for $4500
I almost hit a cat. It really looks like a rabbit on camera, but I swear to you it was a cat. An orange and white kitten. I've come close to hitting quite a few rabbits and a possum, but never a domestic animal.
I came close to rabbits today (not in a hitting them sort of way). But that is nothing unusual, they seem to be less suicidal now than earlier in the year.
Agreed. Can't go wrong with the ol' Panther bodies. Part of the reason why I want the iconic American land yacht as my first car.
Just wondering are there sedans with pop up headlights? Not something super expensive more on the cheap side
Pretty sure the bodywork is different, those Hondas just look similar cause all have popups made by the same people in the same time. Aside from what was mentioned above, there isn't many other options (there are not many 4 door cars with popups) apart from a few rate and expensive exotic classics. Thought I did manage to find these: Buick Skylark Pontiac Sunbird GT To be fair both of these are most likely turds, you'd be much better off with an Accord
same car with different badges and those are turds nothing more than cheap 30 year old econoboxes there are probably more of those in scrapyards than on the road
Went over to a friend of a friends house last night. They have 2 Diahatsu Charades, both converted from NA to turbo with one running the factory turbo and 4psi (which i got a ride in and is bloody fast) and the other is running at 10psi (used to be 14). They also have a Suzuki Swift (which is also bloody fast) and a SSS N14 Pulsar. Now I really want to buy a Swift, they make as much power as my Excel but 130kgs lighter.
today my dad spotted an 87 firebird gta up the street from us on the way home from bj's . the guy is asking 3k for it, it has a few issues, the engine surges during idle(tpi350), the aftermarket hood doesn't fit but he has the original, a portion of the rare digi-dash doesn't light up(probably a bad ground,wire, fuse or bulb) the hatch doesn't latch, the spoiler is damaged, the headliner is droopy and a few small pieces are missing from the interior and it has a salvage title but the car runs strong and is solid we are trying to figure out if we should buy it
