There is nothing wrong with glorious slav vodka drinking cyka blyat mother russia mods. As long as they are not from crimea or ukraine. Because there are no russians in there. Its just an american myth.
Lol no it doesn't! Got to be joking, they used v8s in those 4.5k to 6k lb cars because they needed the torque to lug those suckers around. Anyone that would call a Chrysler imperial or a GM clam shell (roundback) wagon or the 74 Monaco, or any 50s sedan, a muscle car is delirious or ignorant. My 3/4 ton Pickup weighs 8k lbs. But it has a v10! Must be a muscle truck. I mean, I wouldn't call the Burnside a muscle car. Yeah the hawk is kind of a half breed, but more along the line of overly constricted coupe that's almost a full size.
Your pickup truck is a pickup truck. Engines dont need torque to lug things around, they need overall power.
They need torque to keep things moving in changing load requirements like going up and down hill. Helps quite a bit actually. You wouldn't put a 4 banger whose peak power is at 6.5 to 7.5k rpms with less than half the torque from the factory in a damn near 3 ton car. Unless you like spun bearings and smoked torque converters. And torque isn't a measure of overall power? Pretty sure horsepower literally uses torque as one of the main factors in the equation. Screw it too off topic.
horse power IS a measure of torque and RPM. However the overall power is what really matters. Not direct torque.
That's comparing oranges to apples. When you drive a car you dont feel the torque. You feel the overall power of the car propelling you. It doesn't matter if the car has 2 torque or 900, if they make the same horsepower then they have little to no difference in power.
Okay so a 4 cylinder that produces its peak power around 7.5k rpms we'll say is about 400hp compared to a big block v8 producing its peak power at 4.5k rpms isn't going to feel different? What about that first 5,000 rpms when the 4 cylinder dogs before actually having usable power versus the big block having low end torque and therefore more power throughout the bottom end. You would notice a difference in heavier vehicles, or on hills or while pulling if you matched cars and weight and hearing but simply with different engines. Even If their peak horsepower was the same value.
Are we talking about horsepower? or about torque curves? Of course both cars are gonna be different. If the 4bangers is N/A and we break a few rules of physics and engineering you can have it rev to 8k and still keep a flat torque curve. And while you assume that every big block V8 is gonna have a flat torque curve from the very low RPM, you can still modify it to get even more power at higher RPM. You are again mistaking horsepower with the powerband.
Well no shit. I know you can modify engines. Peak power is peak power. The power band is your range of "usable" power. What's there to confuse? You're saying that everything made with a v8 is a muscle car and you're dead wrong.
I didn't? You are now changing to my original topic, which was that most american sports cars with V8s in them could be considered muscle cars. Pony cars incluided.
Yeah I would include pony cars. I wouldn't call the moonhawk or Burnside sports cars really even if they have sport variants. Even pickups have sport variants but I wouldn't call them sports cars either
As much as I love old school muscle cars,we need modern muscle/pony car for sure.There are 3 mods made by @Mr.twiglesworth (Bruckell alauda,bruckell caldera,gavril Chiron) as well as moonhawk and barstow.
I love old-school muscle cars, however, for the diversity, we do need modern alternatives of the old school muscle, for e.g. modern muscle that would be inspired by 2015 Mustang, in the exterior, interior designs and of course - engines.
