General computer talk/advice

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by BlueScreen, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. SixSixSevenSeven

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    But this is the thing. The XPS is cheaper, more powerful and near enough same battery life for many hundreds of dollars less, and yet rivals on the premium build quality, it's not a cheap entry level machine itself.


    Lenovo as a whole are a bit of a flop right now.
     
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  2. aljowen

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    IMO, Laptops such as the XPS13 and Yoga370 are fairly equivalent (both are I5 models however Lenovo is still on 7th gen, Dell is 8th gen).

    Dell XPS13 (£1198.99)
    + Thin Bezels
    + 8GB of Ram (vs 4GB)
    + 256GB SSD (vs 180GB SSD)
    + Lighter weight (100g)​
    Lenovo Yoga370 (£1181.59)
    + Track pointer
    + Touchscreen
    + Digitizer with included stylus
    + Fingerprint reader included
    + 2in1 design
    I would also say that Lenovo using Intel networking rather than Killer networking is a good thing, but that might just be me.

    It depends more on your use case for the device. When I bought my Laptop, there was a set of things I was willing to compromise on, and then there was a set of things that I wasn't willing to compromise on such as 1080pIPS, Digitizer, 2in1, etc. They both offer similar value for money, it's more or less Features(Lenovo) vs Performance(Dell) when comparing these two devices.

    So I would disagree with Lenovo being a flop in general at the moment.
     
  3. Codeslamer

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    I don't know. I try not to be in the whole 'you should do this just because you can' mindset, but I seem to be stuck in it at the moment. It's just, as a buissness decision, makes little sense. Yeah, it's a well build computer. Well, I hope it is, considering the old one was. But when compared to other laptops in the price range, it's just pretty much worse in all aspects. The only reason people would be interested in this PC over all the others, are as Eastham said:
    But they're not Apple. They don't have a massive lineup of people willing to drop £1000 on a phone which is mostly the same as their last model. Few people are gonna be interested in this, and even at it's high price point, I don't see them making much of a return on this atall.

    It's great that they've made something nostalgic out of an older product. But they shouldn't be trying to put it up against the top laptops in the market, when it doesn't have anything better against them.

    But as I started this post, I don't know... I'm not even really interested in laptops, so I don't know why I've got anything to say about it, but here we are
     
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  4. aljowen

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    I think they should have gone all in. They should have embraced that it was going to be a niche product, made it full on flagship (same spec as their top tier flagship), added the 4:3 or at least 16:10 screen the community wanted, with the keyboard and other bits and then charged £500-£1000 more than their flagship. Going full on special edition, balls to the wall style.
     
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  5. VeyronEB

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    You know something is a bit fucky when your "retro" laptop is just a current model T470 with the better keyboard design (which is only like 4 years old) and a colourful logo on the lid, doesn't seem very retro to me.

    On another but related topic I actually just got a Thinkpad T420 a couple of days back. i5 2520m, 4gb of RAM, upgraded battery and in generally good condition overall, great for only £50. I will probably upgrade it to an i7 for a bit more power if I need it and get a new/plastidip the lid since its a bit rough.
     

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  6. Michaelflat

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    hmmm should i update GPU drivers or just leave them as surprisingly it works, i think ill just leave them not updated :p
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    enthusiasts want more than a dual core 15w chip and old GPU. as for the coffee shop idea yeah i agree with you but it needs to be a bit cheaper and no GPU for that, like Intel HD620 integrated and the GPU being optional
     
  7. SixSixSevenSeven

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    My PC is running again with a custom water loop. Interesting how some people are like "you must get a pwm operated pump". There's no difference in temps from pump speed really, just noise and max head pressure
     
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  8. Racermon

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    I always say "as long as it works it doesn't have to be pretty"
    It kinda applies here

    IN OTHER NEWS

    I got my 2nd monitor back
    I learned that I can't use my cpu's graphics (if it is the cpus I honestly don't know) with my GPU so I had to rummage around for a dvi to vga adapter to use it
    But hey
    It works :p
     
  9. aljowen

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    I think most people who hate on Vga do so because it is cool to hate on it. In my experience it seems to be a pretty robust display standard as long as you don't need anything more than 1080p.
     
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  10. Racermon

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    I always run 1366 x 768 I don't need more than that
    Plus I never have used higher than that so I am used to the lower resolutions
    I seem to notice that once you get something better and get used to it you can't go back down to what you used to have
    Like 60fps for example
    I got used to 60fps but have played using 30fps for years and now when I see 30 fps I notice the fps difference

    I could have gotten a high res HDMI monitor but I didn't want it because the stress of my pc vs what I see wasn't good enough in my eyes
    Just depends on the person though :p
    To RGB or not to RGB XD
     
  11. SixSixSevenSeven

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    I've driven higher than 1080p without issue even, albeit this is not *officially* supported/guaranteed as working for either the VGA adapter I was using (laptop only has hdmi) or for the 1200p display I was using, didn't have an hdmi cable. Actually kinda surprised me that with that being an unsupported resolution that it worked at all. Was 30fps though
     
  12. Racermon

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    I've done 4K screenshots on a 1366x768 display
    "Display"
    Mainly because it was just a digital screen at that point since it didn't display irl
    Took the screenshots with teamviewer :p
    If that matters/pertains to the topic
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    Update With A Problem:
    So I noticed some random instability in games, any game, they all have gotten unstable
    So just about an hour ago from when this was type I went into the room my computer is in and I plugged in my ipod
    My computer was asleep so I decided to press the power button then plug in my ipod
    I went to the kitchen, talked about what was goin on this mornin and went back to my computer to find it was off. I thought "hmm, strange, oh well I didn't have anything important open" and proceeded to press the power button. I was greeted with silence from the machine. I decided that it may have been time for my PSU to die since I know nothing about computers (kinda) and went to try what most people do; unplug it, take out the GPU and plug it back in. Surprisingly the system started back up, it had no displays plugged in but it at least started up. I then thought "This is odd, I thought it was the mainboard since it was damaged nearly a year ago" After that thought I unplugged it again and put the GPU back in, I then plugged it in and pressed the power button, I had displays plugged in peripherals all the things you need to play a game, I then pressed the magical power button............and it came on, the fans spinning the disk reader making its loud noise, all of the things that happen when I press that button happened, so I wonder.......What happened? Why did it randomly shut off? Why wouldn't it come back on?
     
  13. Codeslamer

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    You know it's to RGB. It would be rude not to
     
  14. aljowen

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    RGB all the way
     
  15. Codeslamer

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    Also, it might've been something to do with how the GPU was seated. I removed mine abit ago, then installed it and all was fine. I then came back the next day and the computer wasn't working until I removed it and plugged it back in. It's probably fine
     
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  16. Funky7Monkey

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    Eww RGB.
     
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  17. aljowen

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  18. Racermon

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    But if it wasn't seated properly wouldn't it still try to start up? I would think so
     
  19. Codeslamer

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    I mean, probably, but computers are weird like that. Sometimes they don't work whatsoever one day, just to work perfectly the next.
    Are all the games still unstable?
     
  20. Racermon

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    So far 50/50 so there is still a sign of it but they are less likely to be crashing
    which really makes me wonder what could be wrong
    The instabilities is when it is loading things up or adding things to the RAM
    Graphically everything is fine. A idea I just got is to open a GPU benchmark and see what the power reaches
    I know with my previous GPU I saw it was under powered so I knew it wasn't okay
    so perhaps I will learn by doing that again
     
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