General computer talk/advice

There is only Asus ROG Strix B350-F Gaming from Strix series with B350 I can get. Actually, there is not much to choose from (link here), so maybe I will go as you say, with Strix 1070 too + G.Skill RAM, and Ryzen 1600x) Another thing is kinda new to me is M2 SSD, should I get one, or typical 2,5 SATA SSD will be good. As I understand M2 is a lot faster. Also, I think 700W power supply will be enough for all...

I'm planning to build all this today, or tomorrow, because I need to get my work done by the end of the week, and I don't have much time to think what to choose from)

 

All those seem like solid parts. The 1600x doesn't have a cooler, just so you know. AM4 has slightly different CPU cooler mounting holes than AM3, however the clip mounted coolers will work just fine, as that still has the same dimensions. (In short, if your Phenom's CPU cooler is mounted by screwing it to the backplate, it will not work.)
As for the M.2, getting an NVME SSD is great idea. Just make sure it is NVME, not SATA (interface, they both plug into the M.2 slot.) SATA M.2 drives are not much faster than a 2.5 inch SATA SSD. One of the reasons I like the M.2 form factor is you don't have to deal with an extra SATA cable and cable management.
For the RAM, just make sure it is on the QVL list here: https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B350-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_QVL/ If it isn't listed, it will still work, it just won't be as fast as the advertised speed.

 

M.2 is the formfactor. There are SATA m.2 SSDs still, these are literally no different from 2.5" SSDs besides being smaller cards that fit in an M.2 slot. Theres also the nVME drives. They're fucking awesome but alot more expensive. Its upto you whether an m.2 nvme drive is worth it. An m.2 sata SSD is at least much much easier to cable manage but sometimes costs a small amount more, so again thats your call.

 

I saw Linus Tech Tips about M2, got a Samsung 960 EVO 250gb just to install Windows, and some of my programs. This is what I ordered: link. Got a Ryzen 1600 instead of X one, because X is out of stock, I think that will be enough for me anyways. Thanks for the help guys

 

go pigeon+small resolution and it goes pretty well. Btw can you check if your CPU turbo's to 1.8GHz mine only goes to 1.5 (Asus limitation?)

Also would anyone think that a windows 10 360 flip computer (low end atom chip) would be good or an ARM Chromebook, only issue is that chromebooks are actually really expensive, like it's hard to find one cheaper than £150 even with ARM SoC they are more expensive than windows machines! what is going on here?

 

They're not the most reputable source on certain subjects anymore, as they are trying to maintain and grow a viewer base (and catering to specific age groups) rather than focusing on hard details at this point. Just thought I'd say that since there are better channels out there. But that doesn't mean their content isn't absolutely worthless. When new products launch, you want reviews from the different angles of many reviewers... As some miss certain features or the tests performed are different.

 

i know that this is kind of offtopic but i have a xbox one controller connected to my computer and i disconnected but when i tried to re-connect it just wouldnt sync with the microsoft xbox controller-to-computer thing. any advice?

 

If you have the microsoft dongle make sure you press the sync button on that also.
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Congratulations! That is a really awesome build. It is definitely going to be an awesome looking build so post pictures when you are done! Great choice on the SSD, that will be really fast. Also, the 1600 can be overclocked to a 1600X level, so don't worry about not getting the X. Have fun, and enjoy the faster render times!

 

Decided to revive my desktop, bought myself a very nice new old stock Lian Li A10B for £55 and free next day shipping. Very nice case, both 3.5" drive cages are removeable, 7 Optical drive bays and 5 3.5" two power supply mounting brackets, a removeable motherboard tray and the thing that sold me, a locking front door. The case in my opinion has a very sleek black anodized brushed aluminium finish with not a single hint of plastic anywhere, all metal construction. It's a very nice case espcially considering it's from '06 and what most the garbage from that era looked like. I just need to get a cooler and a 1155 I7 or I5 and yeah the cable management sucks, I wanted to go for a easy to service cables out of the way but still kinda pretty look, it doesn't matter anyway since the case doesn't have a side window. My plans for this PC is to be my mothership / workstation. I'm going to add some hot swappable 3.5" / 2.5" drive bays in the front for HDD cloning and such, I've been doing a lot of HDD upgrades For customers lately, converting to SSD's or just adding bigger hard drives.

 

Just an observation but Mac OSX is far better at compressing RAM than Windows 10, like in my general use-case of safari with about 4 tabs open nothing too heavy Mac OSX will compress about 250-300mb and Windows 10 compresses about 10mb. Why did Microsoft half ass this, like everything in the OS, it could've been so much better but they didn't bother. Pretty much how Mac OSX is better than Windows as Apple make sure everything is done properly. But Windows, full of half-assed technologies

But the Mac App Store is a waste of time, it is worse than the windows store, things like Messenger and Facebook are just absent. If you thought the windows store was bad then wait till u see the Mac OSX store

 

Except I can't login to Windows just by entering "root"as username, blank password and mashing the enter key

 

Off to linux we go.... oh wait repeatedly pressing the mouse can crash Linux Mint......
Operating Systems ay

 

Got myself a I7 2600k for a good price, I was considering going with a used I5 7700k with some flavor of LGA 1151 motherboard but man, the price of DDR4 is still ridiculous... Besides more cores = more whores, am rite? Yeah I know the 2600k doesn't ackchyually have more cores just threads, yada, yada.

 

I am amazed. I usually run Beam on the lowest graphic settings,and still get lag. But I switched over to High graphics and... Its a miracle... It runs! Only on SSRB though,but like,even on lowest settings,I still get lag,on high settings,I get slightly moderate lag. But is there any way to help my case? Like,how to increase the FPS?

 

I got a 2600K and mobo for free once, it's what I'm running, dude I worked with took pity on my Athlon II

 

Sounds like you have a CPU bottleneck. What CPU and GPU do you have?

 

I haven't looked at AMD's Zen based processor performance too much, but I understand memory clocks do play an importance in overall performance. I've pickup up that the Infinity Fabric runs at the same speed as the memory.
And that fabric links much of the die together (looking at this diagram).

My question is, how much of an impact does memory speed have on Zen's performance? DDR4 isn't too cheap at the moment, and faster memory only costs more.

 

Quite a lot when it comes to Overclock-ing but I don't think it makes a world of difference when at std clocks but a crummy set of RAM is going to perform worse than midrange I suppose

 

I've done some experiments on this myself. With an overclocked Ryzen 7, ram speed was a massive factor in not only overall performance, but also overclocking stability. I saw as much as 4 or 5 percent in benches like banana bench (going from 2400 MHz ram to an overclocked 2666, and online sources prove it only scales further from there) and sometimes no benefit whatsoever in the performance front, but more stability.

I also lowered the Cas latency by a tick, but that didn't really make a noticeable difference. Ram speed was everything. It's actually a lot of fun overclocking and tweaking the Ryzen chips. I'm still on the hunt for 4GHz. I'm going to upgrade to some better, more stable ram (I run cheap crap) and a liquid cooler. Overclocking stability on Ryzen chips degrades exponentially the hotter they get. I've seen this with my own testing.

They aren't Intel, they're not designed to run hot (especially my 65W part). Above 65° they start to become unstable the higher you have them overclocked.