Thanks for the detailed explanation. --- Post updated --- 1959 Bolger Series 220/Series 225/Conluenzo Shelbourn/Conluenzo Plaza(1959 Imperial Sedan): It is a... ...1959 American luxury hardtop sedan/4-door convertible. Based on the 1959 Imperial Sedan, with 1959 Cadillac tailfins and a 1959 Lincoln Premiere interior and rear wraparound window. Built on a very strong ladder chassis, with front double wishbone, rear leaf spring suspension and all-around disc brakes. Boaty, but relatively good for 1959, oversteery handling in stock form. Configs: - Series 220 - A sedan quipped with a 335 HP (SAE) 400 ci 2-bbl V8 coupled to a 3-speed automatic, an open diff, drum brakes with premium (front) and basic (rear) pads, 15x7 hubcapped steelies with 8.00 - 15 bias-ply tires, a 1959 Imperial Custom front and a 1959 Cadillac Series 62 rear. - Series 225 - As above, but with heavy-duty suspension, a 350 HP 4-bbl engine, rear premium pads, different hubcaps, whitewall tires, a 1959 Imperial LeBaron front and a 1959 Cadillac 60 Special rear. - Conluenzo Shelbourn - As above, but with a 365 HP 2-carb engine, air suspension, different hubcaps, 215/80 R15 radial tires, a two-tone paintjob, a power trunklid with a continental tire, a 1959 Imperial Crown front and a 1959 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz rear. - Conluenzo Plaza - As above, but in a convertible body style with a power roof, - Beater - Based on the Series 220, but with a blown gasket and an out-of-tune carburettor (231 HP SAE), a worn transmission, worn suspension, worn brakes, no hubcaps, worn tires, a rusty, faded paintjob, 2 American flags mounted on the back, a worn interior, fading chromes and a tow hook., - Derby - Based on the Series 220, but with a stripped exterior and interior, welded doors, hood and trunk, a prebent frame, a derby paintjob, rollcage and fuel tank, a straight-piped Gavril 353 ci V8 (235 HP) with a 3-speed automatic, a welded diff, no hubcaps and 215/75 R15 derby tires, - Stock Car - A Series 220 with the 365 HP 2-carb engine, HD suspension, premium brake pads, 215/80 R15 radial whitewalls and no hubcaps and a stock car paintjob, - Stunt - Based off the Series 225, but with a stripped interior, welded doors, hood and trunk, an American flag paintjob, a rollcage, a fuel cell, a Stage 2 supercharged Gavril 423 ci V8 (508 HP) with a 4-speed manual, an LSD, off-road suspension, disc brakes with sport pads, 15x9 (front) and 15x10 (rear) offroad rims with 35x10 (front) and 35x11 (rear) off-road tires and 2 American flags on the back, - Custom - Based on the Conluenzo Plaza, but with a 512 ci V8 with a Stage 1 supercharger (510 HP SAE), a 3-speed automatic, an LSD, sport suspension, disc brakes with sport hubcaps, 16x9 (rear) and 16x8 (front) muscle alloys with 265/60 R16 (rear) and 245/60 R16 (front) sport tires, an American flag paintjob and 2 American flags on the front fenders. Why do we need it? Because Beam needs an archetypical "space baroque"-era luxury car, and a convertible, and because it would be a great derby car.
I'm taking some suggestions, but they have to skins/paintjobs or small add-ons to already existing cars. By add-ons to existing cars I mean something like this: https://beamng.com/resources/the-last-barstow-v8.3172/
The 63 Bluebuck will likely take this role, though I'd like to see a late 60s sub frame luxury coupe/sedan or even a wagon with a Imperial style sub frame would be really cool. But we can only dream.
I would guess the bluebuck would be as strong as a 59 Imperial. The 59s are about 3rd or 4th on the list for overall strengths of Imperials. The 6?s-66s were considered the strongest overall Imperial, (still a full frame) which were full frame cars but in front of the a-arms they resembled a (very strong) Chrysler y-framer. The y-frame Chryslers were subframe models used for all of their full sze and midsize cars until they came out with shock bumpered full boxed subframe cars in 1974 The only Chrysler that had a boxed, non y-frame styled subframe from 1964ish or 5ish til 1974 was the 1967-68 and 69-73 Imperials. I would definitely say that the 67s-8s had the strongest front end due to the giant beam on th3 front of the sub frame, while retaining a leaf sprung, unibody rear just like all of Chrysler's other models at that time. The 69-73s were the same design as the 67s and 68s but not as strong and quite a bit lighter I believe. Still much stronger in the front end than just about any other car being produced at this time. In 1974, the Imperial, while (supposedly) having a couple of added gussets had the same sub-frame design as the Dodge Monaco, Chrysler Newport, Yorker and Plymouth Gran Fury of the time. Somewhere in the mis to late 70s they became the same thing as a Chrysle4 Cordoba/dodge magnum/ dodge charger etc.... couple of rumors that they may have been a little hravier gauge steel on the body panels to reduce road noise in the cockpit. Long post with a bit of editing. Hope it makes sense feel free to fact check. I only learned all this about Imperials due to my involvement in demolition derby and my obvious obsession for full size and mid size Chryslers.
It will more likely be similar to a Ford product like the Galaxy or Merxury Montclair. Gabester said "it will have strength that is somewhere between an Imperial and the moonhawk." So that would be about right.
Oh my bad, ha. Even based on a frame of a 1959 Imperial, I'm sure you'd be far from disappointed if you're thinking a demolition derby setting. They may not be amazing in an imperial only class, but they'll wax most other makes and models. To further show my point. 59-63s were about the same as far as I know. At 44 secomds is a 62 or 3 imperial. Strong cars but no match for the beam on those later model sub frame cars.
Civetta Theros Based on the Lancia Stratos It is Italian and I picked the name "Theros" because in real life, Lancia used to give Greek words/names to their cars, so why not. "Theros" means "Summer" in Greek (or advanced Greek) so yeah. It is really really really really really really fast. BTW, the whole "Civetta Theros" sounds nice and it suits the car. It comes in 4 configs: Stradale (Stock), Rally, Beater and Sport (it's a mix of the Stradale and the Rally). Breakable Parts: Hood (Front Lid) Trunk (Rear Engine Compartment Lid) Doors Headlights Mirrors That Spoiler on the Roof Roof (maybe) Rear Louvers The Second Spoiler on the Trunk (Rear Engine Compartment Lid) Other Basic BeamNG things like: Exhaust, Engine, Wheels, etc... Civetta because again there aren't any Civettas except the Bolide
I know... :/ I just wanted to use this letter size scale, because I thought it looked funny and good... But it is fast in real life. Not as fast as I mentioned, but fast nonetheless...
Burnside limousine would be nice, just for variety. I guess it would just be a burnside on a slighter longer frame with longer rear passenger legroom and longer rear doors
There was something sort of like that back in RoR, except that the only Burnside available back then was from the 80's, not the 40s.
Yeah, it was in a mod, like most of the content for RoR was. It was one of a handful of vehicles that Gabester released as extra downloadable content on the forum. You could get it as a wagon, a sedan or a limousine, and there were several configurations for each body style. Forgive me if this post is too long; I got a bit nostalgic.
Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhh, I thought the Burnside was based on the Ford Club.
