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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by iheartmods, Apr 6, 2013.

  1. Ltp0wer

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    No one should even need calming down. Gabester posted this a week ago. I guess there has been something new this month. You're welcome. Also, I'm no where close to being disappointed about the progress or the frequency of updates. In fact, I'm astounded and I read this forum daily as well. I'd rather them work on the game then post "Today, I worked on the code behind the suspension system". Threatening to delete your account if the devs don't post an update screams immaturity (even if it was a joke) and is particularly annoying to read.

    Please tell me if I'm alone in my opinion and I'll try to shut up. I'm just tired of seeing new posts every day and having half of them be complaining about the lack of updates.
     
  2. oophus

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    Its not an update if you have to search the forums to find it.
     
  3. Ltp0wer

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    It's in the Screenshots! megathread in the Official Showroom subforum! Every thread in there has been started by a developer. If you're not looking for updates in there, I don't see how you could complain about there not being any updates for months. That is THE place to go for quick, small updates. Would you waste time making a blog post saying "remember that car I introduced in an earlier blog post 2 months ago? well I've remodeled the rear fender" or would you just post a picture in a screenshots thread you created? And to make it easier, there is even a "What's New?" button at the top of the site, directing you to new posts. There aren't that many posts a day so it shouldn't be hard to find new posts by developers. And if your "What's New?" page is full of too many old threads you don't want to read, there is a "Mark all forums read" button on the forum homepage so you can start from scratch. This forum is really easy to use, don't make it harder than it needs to be.
     
  4. oophus

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    Why even have a blog section on this site if they don't use it?
    Make a small entry with the screenshot with some info, and direct people in the forums to that blog-update. How hard is that? It would take 1 more minute compared to making the same reply in the forum.

    So as I said. Its not an update if its not put up on the site for people to see. I don't care if "its easy" or whatever to search around on the forums to maybe get a chance to see something new, its stupid and ridiculous and it just doesn't make any sense when they already have that big flashy Blog button right up there.
     
  5. disloyalpick

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    Go over to the RoR forum and act like you little babies are acting here. This isn't the place for it. They are trying to maintain a professional image and you stupid beggars keep bitchin that there are no update. Just friggi' deal with it all-ready. It doesn't matter if they don't show updates. They are still working on it. So just be quiet and please wait quietly like the actually mature people around here.
     
  6. Davidbc

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    Well I do need some calming down. When they prepare you for a big surprise (release) and then nothing happens that's disappointing, but I can understand if that happens once. But then again, a month ago someone asked for the release, and a dev said: ''more info later''. Then again prepared for something. What happened? Nothing, not even the info lol. Even GTA V has more updates.


    Saying that takes like 30 seconds or less. If they want to have a growing community having little updates like this is what you need, so people can see that things are being done. I'm not saying they're not doing anything because they don't post it, I'm just saying taking some seconds to keep everyone updated would be much appreciated, and it would help stop all those posts about ''release now omg omg''
     
  7. tdev

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    Guys, we hit problems in the port of T3D 2.0 which we are now fixing up and the future update component was also in a very bad shape. We are working on it, do not worry.

    The lack of updates is simply because our lack of time to post something. Please keep in mind that we are just 4 people only.
     
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  8. Davidbc

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    Good, I appreciate you tell us what's going on, thx.
     
  9. Bubbleawsome

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    Thanks tdev. That was probably a "stress responce" but I'm glad for it. I like having status updates.
    Maybe, maybe, you could have a community member code a "file viewer" app or something. Like what minecraft did, it shows you what files the devs are "in". You might not want to show your files but it could be a live feed on the home page and we could all see it. No arguments! And it's all coded by one of us, no dev time wasted!
     
  10. Hati

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    I wish you people would get a life, and stop obsessing. I find it immensely annoying when I come on, check the forum for an update and I'm disappointed to find that the new posts are merely pointless drama. There's a nice turn of phrase people use.

    "It'll be done when its done".

    That not only goes for games, that goes for progress updates, blog posts etc.
     
  11. oophus

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    I've never frequented the RoR forums, so why would I start? I'm just stating a fact. They are a company and they will earn on generating hype, so I just don't understand why they would not add it clearly visible when they already post the screenshots in the forums anyway.

    It would benefit them to do it, and thats what I'm "nagging" about. I just don't simply understand why they would not sacrifice 2-4 minutes of their work to generate hype that will greatly return those 2-4 minutes in revenue later.

    Well inform us on the front page of this, not in here in some random thread amongst 100 similar ones. You've got time to reply to forum posts, so the argument about not having time to post updates doesn't fit in my opinion.
    Its all up to you of course, but from a business standpoint, I don't understand why you would not frequently create hype. All updates doesn't have to be about "amazing" stuff, even the tecnological updates and problems would please a lot of people as that just states that you guys are busy at work.
     
  12. tdev

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    we have reasons of not giving out details every day as we do not want to argue with people if features like that are needed or alike. I do not think that features as: "our canvas GUI system now support clipping paths" will help in any way.
     
  13. Mythbuster

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    Could you like... Stop telling the devs what to do? You're being incredibly annoying. You clearly have no clue how it is to work on a computer all day every day. The moment you start going on a forum to post updates of what you've done, you get distracted and start reading other posts. Even if you do it late at night before going to bed, you start reading other posts and then go to bed later than you should. A lot of the times it's much better to just leave forums, facebook, skype, all that kind of crap alone and just work.

    Yes, it would be nice to have a tiny little post somewhere on the forum saying "This week we made progress on this"... Not even a screenshot or whatever, yes, that would be nice. BUT if the developers say they have no time for it, even those 2-4 minutes cost you valueable development time, which usually adds up to being 15 minutes because you start reading stuff... If you only have a couple of hours a day left next to a full time job, those 15 minutes are 12% of your time. That stuff adds up.

    Nowadays I can only have Skype on if it's on "Invisible" because I know people will start talking to me who have no clue that I'm trying to work, and then in the end it takes me a whole day to do something that would cost me 10 minutes if I had only turned off my Skype, for example.


    Seriously, stop telling people what to do. They know you want updates. Everyone wants it, but when it's either working on the game for 15 more minutes a day or posting a new update, then I'd rather have them work on the game.

    Plus, the whining gets incredibly annoying and even gets demotivating, at least for me it does when people ask me "when is X done"... Besides, like tdev says, it's not very useful if they post somethign like "our canvas GUI system now support clipping paths" is it...

    I'm sure people are gonna go "OH THE FORUM POLICE IS HERE" to my post now, but those people should just grow the hell up I guess.
     
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  14. GeoTelnet111

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    I would agree, but seeming how there are rare updates. People get itchy. ;) You guys are doing great, and appreciate all your hard efforts and work!

    Just because there aren't any updates, doens't mean that they aren't doing anything, most of the time... When there are little to no updates per week, they are hard at work, or something in real life has come up! Just be patient.


    *Whoop Whoop, Police! x)
     
  15. Kamil_

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    Bossing the devs is really annoying, just delete this thread.

    Pressuring a post is just...WOW...


    I mean, it's nice to know you're doing something, but you should ban that guy.
     
  16. Hati

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    Dude, are you dictating to the developers how to run THEIR fucking business? and interrogating them on the matter? That's incredibly fucking rude. Learn some damn manners if you're going to be delivering annoying platitudes about what you want developers to do. Personally, the time they spend blogging, I'd rather they spend that time on pushing forward some kind of public release. Hopefully during the summer where I have plenty of time to play the game. If they hit a summer release where I have time off university because they don't waste time blogging, I say have at it Hoss. They're working within a bunch of time constraints, reality gets in the way of development time. So those extra minutes do become valuable. Sure they can pop on and read the forums, make a post. It takes no effort, and very little time. But a proper, informative blog actually takes a little bit of thinking about. Much more thinking about than a single sentence on a forum post.

    Telling developers what you want them to do like that, though, I don't know man. That's just really obnoxious.
     
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  17. oophus

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    I'm not talking about updates every day. No reason to pull out strawman arguments. I'm talking about generating hype. You've made the decision to make a "Blog" section up here, and a lot of the forum posts you've already made could have been a perfect fit up there. And thats what I am wondering/complaining about. I just don't see why you wouldn't make the use of the Blog section when its already up there.

    The art of making hype is of course not set in stone, and having frequent updates against rare updates is not something I've done the research on, on which one is best. All I'm saying is that when you already take the time to write on the forums, then why don't you also make a Blog post about it? Its a way to gather everything at one spot, so that your members get an easier way to find it.

    Relax kid. I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm asking questions.

    And I DO know how it is to work on the computer all day every day. I work in the oil-industry making production 3D models and drawings for production with AD Inventor.
    I've also worked as a Freelance artis for media making a few commercials.


    With your logic here you should support my question. Making the updates on their Blog with an automated update in the forums for it to be discussed would be as easy, and less time consuming than doing what they do now. Agree?

    In ANY situation where you work with your mind (art, programming, modelling, animation, environment layout etc) it is recommended that you take small breaks to leave your work to come back to it later with a fresh mind. I often do 2 or 3 things at the same time, because doing just one thing will make you blind on the thing you're trying to create. Especially when you are doing any form of task that requires creativity and problem solving on your end.

    2-4 minutes of breaks is just good for the developers if they don't already take those breaks once in a while - like every hour or so before they delve deep down into it again. Besides, making hype is not a waste of time in my mind.


    We DO get frequent updates with the screenshots and the like, all I'm saying is that they should focus it all together and put it up on their Blog section on this site.



    If anything, you're the guy who is being rude. Take a second look at your "statement" and its clearly you who wants them to rush, not me.
    "I'd rather they spend that time on pushing forward some kind of public release."


    "Hopefully during the summer where I have plenty of time to play the game."
    Talk about being self-centric.

    Telling developers what you want them to do like that, though, I don't know man. That's just really obnoxious.
    Dude, take a look at what you're saying. You accuse me of dictating them on stuff, and here you are telling them to fucking hurry up because you want to play this game before the summer hits.
     
  18. Amazing

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    Jesus christ man, every time I check this website for something new, I always see one person bitching. Whether it be an obnoxious comment, or a reply to one. I know it's annoying reading stupid comments, but it's just as annoying seeing people ranting about immature and impatient people. This is the internet man, immature people constitute like 90% of this damned thing, and trying to correct their behavior by typing a whole book to them over the internet is not going to fix their flaws. I know people are disappointed when they see nothing new for a while, and I am too, but they're working as hard as they can (or want to, lol.) They're human, just like us (hopefully.) They have their own lives to tend to, and on top of that they have a full blown soft body physics simulator to work on too, while you sit on your lazy ass ranting on a forum. As long as I know that they're working, it really doesn't matter how frequently they give us updates. I'm just as ready as you guys for this simulator to come out, but I know being stupid on a forum isn't going to speed up the process. As much as it pains me to say this, you just have to wait.
     
  19. luke198

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    At times like this, silence is golden.
     
  20. oophus

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    Spoken like a dictator. ^^

    What people seam to believe is that I dont root for these guys. I love the idea of their product, and I hope they succeed in a huge scale so that we, the costumers can get years of fun because they succeed and continue to develop their product. That way we can continue throwing money at them.
    Thats why I want them to create hype the correct way. They already have their Blog, and they already frequently post on the forums, so I just don't understand why they don't take use of what they've already made, the blog section.

    Hype = people interested.
    People interested = money.
     
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