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Autobello Piccolina

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  1. Cutlass

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    Why is "nice" a hyperlink that leads to a search result for "nice on Google maps??
     
  2. General S'mores

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    That's the joke.
     
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    Fenneko's right... that's the joke... :rolleyes:
     
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    I had some time tonight, so I caught up on these:

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    As expected, blackwalls significantly change the car's apparent proportions.


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    Meanwhile, it becomes clear exactly where the panel gaps are on this thing. The border between the blue side panel and the yellow roof is the only line that does not denote a panel gap. I am assuming that there's a body weld joining the roof to the rest of the unibody along that line.
     
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    I believe the rear fender is not a separate panel. It's just flared a bit.


    Manufacturers often used to conceal welding joints where roof and side panels would meet with the application of drip mouldings, so I believe you are right on this one.
     
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  7. Nathan24™

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    Gorgeous, as always! :)
     
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  8. YellowRusty

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    So did I, until I looked more closely at the original photo. There appears to be a panel gap there.
     
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    Looks like a (sharp) crease to me, not a gap. Normal-mapped, likely just to allow for Abarth-like overfenders/fender flares:



    And if it's actually a separate panel... it would be the first production car ever to have separate rear fenders and flush front fenders (ok, there's the 1st gen Smart Fortwo...), which would kinda match some of the logic-defying design choices of the fictional car...
     
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    - Predicted size and engine capacity vs. market positioning (it's rumored to be a 1.1 - 1.2L, around 3.8 - 4.0m long... at the time these were certainly not "affordable" family car specs).
    - Equipment shown vs. era (at the time, sideview mirrors on both sides were uncommon even on luxury cars... cars this size usually came with no mirrors at all).
    - The car is italian but so far was always shown with german-spec details (optics, oval rear plate holder).
     
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  12. Xelerate

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    do we even like this car im confused
     
  13. MisterKenneth

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    Of course we like it.
     
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  14. Xelerate

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    oh ok. saying that it is "logic defying" is confusing me
     
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    Pointing out some inconsistencies doesn't imply I don't like what they are doing.
     
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    • 3.8-4.0m is almost exactly the size of a VW Beetle, which is known for being affordable.
    • The engine options are very similar to the Beetle.
    • You can make your own configs without both mirrors if you want.
    • How are the "optics" and "oval rear plate holder" German?
     
  17. MisterKenneth

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    Then how were the passengers able to see behind them? :p

    Was it not law back then to have at least one mirror?
     
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    Not right after WW2. Post-war mass motorization in most european countries came with much smaller and cheaper cars - like the FIAT 600 in Italy. The Beetle was a class above, both in terms of price and content.

    Piccolina ain't "piccolina" at all, that's about the size of FIAT's own 1100/103 of the time which, while cheaper than other more prestigious offerings, was far from small or "affordable".
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    No, sideview mirrors only became mandatory in 1971. On the driver side, no less.
     
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    Did Italy has speed limits pre-1971? If I remember correctly 60's were quite free from speed limits in large parts of Europe?

    Multipla Taxi, I wonder if they used to deliver mail as that shelf next to driver is very much like what I have seen on mail delivery purposes, or perhaps it is just for the luggage? Gotta love that taxi meter though, operated by cable I believe.
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    And sideview mirrors indeed were not on 600, at least not standard issue as none original ones I have seen having them. There is rear view mirror inside of the cabin though.

    But, F2YS, I think that none of BeamNG cars is attempting to replicate certain car, but be more of newly created vehicle inspired by vehicles of time. So thinking Piccolina being Fiat 600 related might be not most accurate, it is Autobello Piccolina, completely own kind of creation, like Barstow is Gavril Barstow, it is not Torino etc. even some of such vehicles have inspired styling, it has very unique design that is made from scratch.

    T-series might have exterior of almost precisely like Eagle, but interior is then lot different, it has dual stick shifting, which phased out quite largely at 70's, dashboard is like late 60's design, not sure how common adjustable air suspension was at the 70's / 80's, but BeamNG cars attempt to be unique designs from the scratch that visually takes cues from cars that did exists.

    So in that sense, I don't think Piccolina can actually have inconsistencies as it is not attempting to replicate, thus it does not need to be historically accurate, Beamverse is not quite same as real world because of that.
     
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    Of course it did. Lack of uniform european legislation ≠ lawless country...
    I know, there's so many aspects of it that couldn't be more far-removed from the FIAT 600. Or anything italian, for that matter. And it's perfectly fine with me.

    Though, this has nothing to do with the 600, to be honest. "Inspired by vehicles of the time" implies time-consistency and contextual accuracy, and this is where this new vehicle is somewhat lacking. Especially when a little more research would have provided all this. Mirrors and lights are just an example.

    I find it quite unbelievable for a just-founded manufacturer to launch such an advanced design as their first product, all out of the blue. To expect to sell an "affordable" midsizer to cash-strapped post-war families who often had sign promissory notes for years to afford a minicar. And that's not me, it's the official description of it. If Autobello was founded to build "distinctive, reliable but cost-effective cars" (like a Volkswagen) I wouldn't mind. If it wasn't named "Piccolina" while being that large, I wouldn't mind either. If it was some sort of an italian Tucker - who debuted with one of the most advanced vehicles of its time, the Torpedo, by gathering the best automotive experts on the project - it would have made more sense.
    Disagree. Some historical accuracy in a game that strives to achieve realism is a must, IMO...
     
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