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Discussion in 'General Off-Topic' started by Car crusher, Apr 4, 2014.

  1. vmlinuz

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    hAPPY 2009 GUYZ!!!!11!1!1!11
     
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  3. Potato

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    Don't wear flip flops while riding a cheap rented bicycle.
     
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    African people would be frozen now.
     

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  5. aljowen

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    Fixed that for you
     
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    Again with the feet dude?
     
  7. Potato

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    That's also very valid. Alcohol and other substances may have been involved in the decision to wear flip flops.
    This one is less about feet and more about a grotesque injury, I'd say.
     
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  8. C747

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    Jeez...
     
  9. fufsgfen

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    I guess this gives 'slightly' better impression than what reality is:
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    Updates of Raceroom have made it actually pretty nice, pretty much best overall experience of any racing sim now, at least if Hotlapping is a thing one enjoys. Car handling seems to be much improved and FFB can be pretty nice with enough adjustment of options, did not like default FFB.
     
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  10. C747

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    If it is friendly to low-med-ish computers, i'll give it a try
     
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    I think it runs pretty light, haven't seen any frame drops and I have everything maxed out, I think GPU power usage was something like 25% when I shortly checked that.

    They also added some new free content to it, Sepang(?) track and Formula car and updated handling of free hillclimb car that has V8 JUDD, great sounds, imo.

    It is free to play, but in practice it costs what normal games cost to run normal amount of content, at least when sale is on, but that is about to end pretty soon I guess.

    You can test drive any car on one track, so it is quite good system, you know what you will get when paying.
     
  12. aljowen

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    Race room is fun. The physics feel good, the driving feels good.

    The last time I played the UI was almost indecipherable, and the AI would legitimately ram you off the track like you weren't there. Maybe that's fixed now?
    That said, the AI was actually a lot of fun despite that, since you really have to keep an eye on them. It just feels a little unfair when your race is ended because you got rear ended by a car that didn't even attempt to avoid hitting you.
     
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    I did do 37 car 10 lap race at Zolder, AI set to 100, starting from middle of the pack and progressing to 11th position at the race end. I think I did bump AI more than AI did bump on me, but they can be pretty stupid at times, they crash to each other at times too and are not overly cautious, so you need to be careful.

    Most annoying is that they tend to slow down bit much at chicane entry / middle of chicane, while they accelerate bit fast to my liking from out of chicane. Kinda like fast and slow at wrong places.

    Haven't done much of racing against AI as I get so dizzy with them around me, so mostly I do just hotlapping and new updates certainly have changed my opinion of that game, it is not rF2 good in handling, but not bad, it gives really nice feeling when you are pushing hard, you get to kind of zone, sounds etc. creates really good experience.

    TBH I don't really care too much about realism on such racing sim anymore, illusion, the experience is enough as long as driving is somewhat there.

    I think it was November that they updated that Judd V8 hillclimb car physics too, it's the free car in game.



    I have several same cars for rF2 and Raceroom, while rF2 cars do drive bit better, overall experience with Raceroom is nicer and especially those leaderboards are something that works for me. Also sounds are really nice most of the time. Bit too much echo though.

    There was some AI related options added at least just last month I think, not really sure about UI, there are stuff and numbers everywhere on screen, haven't really paid much attention to them, I click Leaderboards, then pick car and track, then I click challenge button and start chasing that ghostly car which tries to run away :D
     
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    I despise the amount of DLC RaceRoom has. It's almost iRacing levels of ridiculous. I much prefer Assetto Corsa, because not only can I just mod DLC in, it fully supports my Mixed Reality headset with ALL vehicles unlike rF2, where it's specific and unreliable at best.
     
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    I really like Assetto Corsa for those reasons. I don't mind DLC, DLC is great, I own all of the DLC for Assetto Corsa. But when it is presented in the way that RaceRoom does, its incredibly off-putting.

    In terms of value for money, RaceRoom cannot beat Assetto Corsa's base content. Assetto Corsa is currently £7.74. The ultimate pack is £15.22, for which you get 178 cars and 19 tracks, including Nordschleife, plus a huge amount of excellent free and paid mods. So to me its no wonder that RaceRoom has seemed pretty dead throughout its lifespan and gets fairly little coverage.
     
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    I own all the DLC for Assetto Corsa as well, but only because it was on sale. It's hard to beat AC's base content full stop outside of maybe Project Cars, but even PCars isn't as versatile as AC is.

    I don't mind DLC usually, but the game has to make me WANT to purchase it, not REQUIRE me to. RaceRoom flat out REQUIRES purchasing of DLC to get any use of the game what so ever.
     
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  17. rottenfitzy

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    Forza 7 has about 800 cars, but it seems to be in a separate catagory.

    How do you mod in DLC?
     
  18. fufsgfen

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    It still is cheaper than iRacing though and cars sound better than AC, also you need to own only one in class to participate race of that class, so kinda makes it bit cheaper, but skins cost money too, which is kinda annoyance.

    AC is kinda end of life though, so it is much better value than what it used to be when fresh, but surely AC has more content, but also it is many ways different, so different actually that I don't know how well those compare.

    rF2 and Raceroom might compare, also maybe iRacing, but that is kinda way different too, they have incredible nice driver career system, but their physics, settings menus etc. are quite horrible experience and you don't really do hotlapping with it, that is solely online multiplayer focused game.

    One annoying thing with AC is that if you have AC base game, you can't get ultimate pack, you have to get all DLC separately and then they come with car types which you might not be interested at all, but pricing is low enough, especially during the sales.

    With raceroom you have to get game's virtual currency from their other store and use that to buy content packs inside the game, otherwise you will pay hundreds. During the sale it was still around 50 euros for whole content, which is not cheap, but I think AC was not so far off when it was still updated frequently.

    ACC was much better value than AC some time ago, considering with something like 25 euros you got all future content too.

    Still I would say that AC, PC, etc. are lot cheaper than sims that try to appear more serious. Raceroom runs live competitions different parts of world, which have real money as prizes, also winners get to drive real race cars on tracks, it is kinda going to iRacing's turf. rF2 is trying to build such competition system too, remains to be seen how that will work out.

    Speaking of rF2 that is not cheap one either, one car is around 5 euros, sure there is base content and mods, but compared to their DLC that other content is way bad in terms of handling, but their DLC is best handling GT cars I believe.

    So you don't really choose between the things, when you can have them all, they are all different and hit different spots, main point is though that running modern sim racing that is still in active development, is not going to be super cheap, also to be competitive you need to limit focus of vehicles, I think for that they can up the prices then bit more than likes of AC which is pretty much done already and thus greatest value for anyone driving around.

    With rF2, I think one will look to pay 200 or more of complete experience, whenever that will be 'complete', it might take years and years though. I base this on fact that single track sets you back well over 10 euros, new cars are around 5 euros each, but you can get something like 4-5 for 15 euros, older cars are bit cheaper though, but considering there is quite a lot of cars probably in complete experience, that adds up quickly.

    iRacing was even more expensive and in addition you get monthly fees.

    I'm not sure what ACC is going to cost, it probably will have DLC to buy in future and base game is going to be something like 60 euros, if not waiting and getting content when it is 'old' or if not got it when it was under 60 euros (I guess right now or pretty soon it is close to 40 euros?), that is probably going to be well over 100 euro experience.

    Compare that to BeamNG, with 23 euros you get pretty much of content and physics that paves new levels, although it takes quite a bit of adjusting to get cars be like race cars. Even when BeamNG goes gold, it probably will be a bargain in costs department.

    Just lacks real world race tracks, yeah and cars, which is what some people are willing to pay lot from.

    I think that only game I have all DLCs is JC3 and only because that did come with 5 euro or so pack with JC1 to JC3 with all DLC, can't remember price exactly, it was ridiculously cheap compared to any sim racing.

    So without budget of 2500 euros or so, you don't start simracing on PC, of course one might have a PC, monitor etc. already, which reduces most of that cost, but still, getting wheel, finding sim that works for you, content etc. that is going to be 300 euros or more of cost, at least how I see it. Without hunting for deals etc. it can be well over 500 euros, then come cravings for better wheel, some nice racing cockpit thing, which starts off as simple 200-400 euro metal thing with seat and place to monitor and wheel.

    At some point one must ask if getting cheap track day car and running that on single local track would be equal in costs? Maybe renting a superkart would be cheaper :p

    I think it would be best to just stick with the AC, after all it is great value and some cars do hit the spot, some are quite meh for me though, not sure why, but certainly lot cheaper than running those other options.



    My simracing costs in total are perhaps around 1500 euros, not including computer(s), but that is for more than 15 years and quite several wheels and sims, if it is 50 or 100 or even 150 euros for next 2-3 years, I don't know if that is too much, that is running 2-3 sims with content I'm most interest to run, might end up to need new wheel within 3 years though which is 300-500 euros more I guess, unless I stick with same cheapo TM.

    I guess some people put more money in beer during that time period though :p
     
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  19. aljowen

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    Anyone here know anything about Torque Wrenches?

    Recently I got an X-Tools "Pro" Torque wrench, generally I have been quite happy with the quality of X-Tools products. I paid £52.49 ($66.52) for it, Including 20% sales tax and postage.

    I know that torque wrenches are generally expensive bits of equipment, and that this is a more budget oriented tool. However, it seems to have a lot of play in it. Is this a normal amount of play for a torque wrench, or should I return it and get something else?


    I have tested it on my bike, which from the factory has bolts torqued to certain values (10/15Nm etc), and its readings seem to be in line with what the factory had set.


    I have also found that the included hex bits seem to bind with the bolts, requiring reverse torque to be applied to release the bit from the bolt. By contrast, my Wera hex keys can be slid right out with no issues whatsoever after use. So I am a little concerned that it is damaging the bolts during use, which isn't ideal for use on expensive equipment which may be difficult to find replacement parts for.

    If the tool works it works I guess, but its not confidence inspiring.
     
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    It’s excessive.
     
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