Question about maximum entities - someone said "There WAS a max"

I've been writing all over the forums for the past week or so, sorry to be a bother but I'm trying to soak it all up.

Long story short: I asked why the devs put railings, posts, etc.. as a FOREST instead of individual items and someone mentioned, "there used to be a maximum of 4500" or something. I'm curious if that's a fact and if it's now 3000 or 9000 or what. Basically I'm looking at building a hell of a lot of guard rails and signs and such, and don't want to find out at item 4500 that I should have saved my three days worth of work and done it differently.

Thanks in advance guys! =)

 

Thanks for the fast reply, and excellent idea! I'll do that for sure.

I crashed while saving a few days back and lost 80-100 hours of work as a result, and I can't handle that happening again!! Mind you I was able to get it all back to where it was within 12-15 hours. Experience is wonderful huh? =D

If someone doesn't beat me to it, I'll report back here with what I can find out about 4096 objects!

 

Thanks for the headsup!

Turns out working with an 8k terrain at .5 is also a significant pain to PAINT. Super laggy. I figured since modifying the terrain was smooth and silky that painting it would be too - nopers!

I've just spent the past 4 and a half hours painting gravel. Fun stuff

 

I was wondering about that, all the people who've suffered with various stages throughout development.

I'm curious, isn't Torque an engine that BeamNG are just using, and not developing? For instance, right now I've just deleted 15 point lights thinking, "That was fun, but no way could I actually keep that many active at once, these things KILL performance in games." After deleting them, there was ZERO performance difference, it's as if they didn't exist! MEANING I can light my entire tunnel with 2048 res shadow maps and it looks fantastic AND runs just as well! =D

Last night though I was making walls using props, and after about 100 or so - not only did my eyes start buggin out - I started getting worried, 'What if. . . what if it CRASHES when I save!?" luckily it didn't, and it looks great imho!
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After writing that I looked up Torque 3D, and one of the first things I read was:

"
Advanced Lighting*
Our deferred lighting model is the pinnacle of contemporary real-time rendering. Using Wolfgang Engel's "Light Pre-pass" rendering, Torque's 3D’s advanced lighting can support hundreds of lights and global real-time dynamic shadowing on every object in your scene. Artists can combine this solution with pre-baked light maps or tune Torque's shadow maps for just the right look in a scene

*Currently Windows-only"


Hahah!

 

You're so damn helpful!! =D

I always thought it was CryEngine and then recently learned it was Torque and now I'm learning it's a FrankenTorque!! Haha, as long as once I've finished this level it'll always work and not suddenly break because the entire engine is different. I'm sure that's how the Dev team feels about their work though, so I'm thinking I'm safe.

 

The Piano Hauling hahahah! *Cheers man, from what little time I've been here I've noticed it's quite a friendly and knowledgeable place. I've noticed a few admins posting and they're very much friendly/to the point - bloody rarity these days!

I hate that you're making a crazy cool road kit, I've basically laid out my whole map just now, and been using whatever I can scrounge from various levels (Italy, ECU, etc..) hopefully your modelling skills have gone to crap and everything sucks compared to what I have . . . . hahah, kidding of course. Here's a few random shots of the progress - I've laid out how I'm goign to do my roads, tested the AI over and over and OVER and OVER and finally they've mastered the track so far, going from 4 lanes to 2 lanes to 1 lane, all sorts of beautiful carnage to ensure! I know there's a proper place to post pics of the level, but I'm so wrapped up in this I figured I'd just add these here and now and get back to it before I release "actual" shots/footage.

 

In all honesty, I didn't care for Italy - in fact I didn't even know it was a thing until it was released! Once I played it I thought, "... meh whatever." But then after getting into the map dev side of things, and learning about what assets there are, and more importantly, AREN'T, I've gained an immense level of respect to the devs behind Italy! The signs, textures, over-all colouring/look is incredible! There is so much more to the level than what I had first realized. Kudos to them fo SHO. Anyway yeah, I guess I've strayed off topic enough > not sure how the admins here are about that sorta stuff - yet.

 

I realized last night that the 4096 object limit was probably because of the text file size being a 4096 line limit to be read. So I thought, "Could it be done that at line 4096 you somehow say "now load filexx.json" and append."" Then I realized what if you just put a comma at the end, so instead of one object per line, it was object, object, object essentially giving unlimited numberss. Then remembered, 'Oh yeah derp they've already said it shouldn't be a problem anymore."


SO I grabbed a guard rail section and a turn sign, duplicate each 5 times, then those 5 times, then 10 times, 10 times, 2 times = 2000 parts, and saved. Loaded and saved no issue, and FPS didn't budge. So now I've been waiting 5 minutes to duplicate those 2000 parts and hit save and will update:

Selecting ONE part, nooo problem. Selecting two parts, okay. Selecting 10 parts at once, "what are you doing?" selecting 2000 parts at once. . . computer hates me.

Here we have 4097 extra objects along side the already 550 objects in the map:

First picture. . (realized I can't place them in here by uploading)

Save, success.

Re-open...

GREAT SUCCESS!

Attached three images, first showing them all, then showing them reloaded, then showing the .json listing the line count showing far beyond 4096. I SAY this is a fo-sho thing, nothing against Blunderton or fufsgfen but I needed to SEE IT to believe it.

Hooooray!

 

Haha WOW! That's awesome, I wish you had just posted that video first hahaha, selecting objects takes FOREVER, I just did a backup of my .json without them so that I could replace it instead of selecting and deleting them

 

Yeah I noticed you did some trickery so I read the youtube description and realized how, very cool! "The only limit is your imagination" seems to apply to this as well, hooray! I've gotta research how to get models from Maya to the game, every time I do though I end up spending approx 500x longer on a level as I end up making all sorts of assets. I keep talking about doing it, but right now I'm so focussed on using what I already have that some how it's 2019 AND 5 days in already haha