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PC Build - How will it run Drive?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Quannix, Apr 10, 2014.

  1. logoster

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    *cough*BeamNG*cough*
     
  2. Quannix

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    Again, I am still working things out with the part list and seeing if the extra price from Intel's cores is truly worth it for my overall needs. I've heard about AMD processors doing much better in terms of recording and livestreaming, which is a big plus for me.

    We'll see, though.
     
  3. logoster

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    how often will you be playing beamng? (and recording or live streaming beamng?) as amd cpu's are currently known for having trouble with beamng for some reason.

    If A Lot: get an intel, as intel has far better single threaded performance then amd, which is what you need for beamng (as it's 1 car per core)

    if not all that often: an amd should be fine, just be warned that you may not get the best performance possible due to the mentioned problem of amd with beamng
     
  4. Quannix

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    Well quite honestly, this is one of my favorite games to mess around on. I know I'll be recording and streaming it decently often. As long as I'm able to drive a Moonhawk around at 60+ FPS, I'm happy.
     
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    so ill take that as "a lot", in that case you'll definitely want to go intel, as intel has better single threaded performance than amd which is what you need for beamng (as it's 1 car per core/thread)

    if you plan on overclocking: an i5-4670K should be plenty

    if you plan on overclocking and rendering: an i7-4770K should be plenty

    if you don't plan on overclocking: an i5-4670 should be plenty

    if you only plan on rendering but no overclocking: an i7-4770 should be plenty

    if you don't get it:

    (K at the end of it = overclockable, while no k means it's not overclockable)
     
  6. Quannix

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    Again, thanks a lot for the help. I'm familiar with PC parts and gaming, it's just that most games aren't quite as CPU dependent as this one is.
    Revised build

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks


    CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: ASRock B85 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($72.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($151.95 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($489.99 @ Newegg)
    Case: NZXT Phantom 530 (White) ATX Full Tower Case ($114.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
    Total: $1314.86
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
     
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    i don't know much about MB's or cpu coolers, so can't say anything there, but everything else looks pretty good, and should run beamng (and stream/record) it nicely
     
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    I'm not the best with telling what level computer pats are, I know that his GPU is better than mine, and my cpu is GOD LIKE, but IDK a lot about computers, just know that some parts of his is better than mine, but some parts my rigs is better then his/hers.
     
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    I''m so jealous of these US prices, that build here in Australia would set you back well over $1800.
    Anyways, that build is almost the same as mine except I have a GTX770. I can tell you that even with a 770 on the highest display settings I average around 75-80FPS so with a 780 I would expect to pull around 90 or so.

    I would highly recommend the Gigabyte GTX770 OC 2gb edition, I must have gotten a card from a super batch because mine is equal to and sometimes better than a 780 in many games
     
  10. Nitrouspony

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    Have you looked into the feature called Shadowplay? In Kepler based GPUs (Maxwell as well), Nvidia cards can record and stream games with negligible performance hits. Whatever performance you see in a game, you will get about the same performance (minus one or two FPS) while streaming. They only support streaming to Twitch at the moment, so you're out of luck if you use another service. Shadowplay has a lot of other cool recording features as well that I suggest you check out.

    So don't let performance hits while streaming be a deciding factor between the 770 and the 780. Although if you have the money, go for the 780 (Ti) because that is an awesome card.
     
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    Having a 760, how exactly does Shadowplay work? Does it just write whatever happens to be in the framebuffer directly to the HDD?
     
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    I honestly have no idea, and I haven't used it recently, but I can tell you it works. I wish the newer drivers had compute or the older ones used shadow play.
     
  13. Robert__White

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    I think this will run Beam NG just fine, however while I would say you should buy the best GPU you can get, I'm in agreement that the 780 is 'uneeded' and you should probably go for the i5 and 770 combo someone mentioned earlier. Just my opinion, it really is up to you.
     
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    If you need more recommendations don't get that mobo. Get a 87 chipset at least. Preferably z87 (if there is a different 87 chipset) don't use the 85 b or h, they are missing features.
     
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    Features that not everyone needs/uses...
     
  16. pulley999

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    I hate to bring this back up, but I found a source for that optimization claim. Screenshots! thread, page 98. Clicking the double arrow next to the quote will take you right to the post.
    Taken from a discussion where estama, metalmuncher and AirSkiller were discussing APUs.

    But who can pile on more cars before their framerate starts taking a nosedive?
    Most people only play with one car on a regular basis, which will not demonstrate the potential advantage of the AMD over your i5 in a proper, multi-vehicle gameplay scenario.
     
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  17. Quannix

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    Ohh, that's an interesting way to look at things. So AMD would be better in a setup with multiple cars?
     
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    I also meant with multiple cars. But hey, we won't know for sure until someone with an 8 core amd shows us their fps with say 8 cars ( I can handle 4 cars with 60 fps so with 8 cores it should be 8 cars)
     
  19. pulley999

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    I wish I knew someone with an AMD 8-core to test for us. My 2600k (basically your i5 with HT) can manage 4 cars before the frames start to trickle away, and starts tanking severely after 7-8 vehicles, depending on the model of car.
     
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    Noah1897 has a 8320.
     
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