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End of Uploading? EU's new internet killing law

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by fufsgfen, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. fufsgfen

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    According to this it looks like any content uploaded needs to go trough copyright scan:
    https://gizmodo.com/a-dark-day-copyright-law-that-threatens-the-internet-a-1833570802

    So that is mods, posted images, etc.

    Kinda sad, free information was big thing with internet and looks like EU is killing that, I guess it is era of new iron curtain or something where provider of filters can decide what is shared and what is not.

    So for example if one makes a mod, content filter needs to check all textures if those are copyrighted or not etc. That is certainly impossible, how to check for jbeam, law apparently does require checking?

    That is not only to repo, but to forum too, as apparently content needs to be checked before it gets live.

    Server loads alone would be an issue with such insanity.

    Things were nice at early 90's, now power hungry parties are ruining it all, this thing hits modders quite bad I guess.
     
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  2. skodakenner

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    I really hope that its going to be a law thats not actually enforced like most internet laws over here. Also whats stupid about it the guy who made the law doesnt even know how to say google properly but has the power to make laws about it
     
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  3. fufsgfen

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    I'm bit worried how it affect small boards of indie developers, I see it kind of removal of small discussion forums etc. everything is pushed to bigger environment which are easier to control, also it might lead to authorized copyright checking services doing bit more than that and some are milking money out from this of course, which makes it again even harder for making free games or give free services like mod hosting here, how much more cost devs can afford to keep service free?

    Lot of potential issues.

    Not enforced laws are kinda bad too, rules jungle that nobody knows how to follow properly.

    Indie dev like BeamNG might need to be alert on what is to come in related to this legislation though, it probably can take year or two to come in action and there are certain ways to affect how it comes, but for example in Germany small developers would need to bring their worries to attention of those politicians who care as national freedom to adjust EU laws is practically only way to change this for now.
     
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  4. skodakenner

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    Lots of people tried protesting against it but that only made them want it more. Also we demonstrated against it but they only said we are paid by google and theyre going to ignore it. It also will have 2 years time to be integrated but noone knows how to do that as the government doesnt know how it will work espacially because article 13 wont include upload filters as stated by the cdu wich is the party behind it
     
  5. Blood-PawWerewolf

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    Very similar to the net neutrality protest went. We were all called “bots” on the FCC website.
     
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  6. ManfredE3

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    To be fair, John Oliver did send hoards of HBO viewers to the page at the same time and, as we were all reminded of when he later set up bots to call Ajit and friends, the FCC seems to not know anything about neither bots nor consumers.
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    So your government thought that Google, possibly the biggest benefactor of this legislation, paid people to protest against it?.. Nice.
     
  7. Mr.Bot

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    But one thing about this new stupid law, it's gonna be hard for smaller companies to promote their content even if it's theirs. Also TY wouldn't be able to handle this law and other sites
    and I don't think this law will last for long as much protesting will happen (It is already happening)
     
  8. ManfredE3

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    That's what we said about a lot of things, net neutrality included. Thankfully, some state level governments (including the state I live in) have been taking responsibility where the federal gov't will not.
     
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  9. MisterKenneth

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    I don't live in the EU, but Article 13 seriously needs to be done away with.
     
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  10. Ihatecheeseguy

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    Wait…a minute
    So soon uk is not going to be in eu union
    so it would not affect us

    There is one good thing about brexit.
     
  11. fufsgfen

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    Dream on, US companies has to follow "right to forget" EU law, these things are world wide so that it probably is needed to comply with or then service needs to block EU users.
     
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    well, i would love to believe that
    the majority of it is automated. So, its highly unlikely its gonna go un-enforced.

    I cant believe the EU is so bored they ran out of ideas to pass laws on.
    like, why? Nobody asked for Article 13, and it has so many loose ends and loopholes. You cant restrict the internet. Believe it or not, Mr EU, its probably more powerful than you.
    Think about it. what was the group or vigilante hackers... Anonymous? Im not sure, but they might do something even.
    Lol this gonna go down in history as an utter mistake.

    Please inform me if there was an actual reason more than just copyright infringement cases that led to Article 13.

    (and I dont even live in the EU! :p)
     
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    The guy who made it said its only for the money. I sadly cant say what i think about the eu here. Also @ManfredE3 the same happend here to we started a petition and they said we were bots we protested and they said we were paid by google also the vote was pretty narrow anyway so theres still hope that itll fail in the second approval round.
     
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  14. default0.0player

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    Well this means the owner of the so-called "content filter" decides which content contained copyrighted. This means autocracy.
    Letting your files checked by a stranger is privacy infrigement
    Is there any ways to bypass the "content filter"?
     
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  15. skodakenner

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    You supposedly can still use it like you can use copyrighted pictures in memes and so on but how can a content filter know the diffrence? Also you could file a complaint because it restricts the freedom of the press and the right to keep informed
     
  16. Ihatecheeseguy

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    So that would be the end of russian mod website and world of mods!
     
  17. fufsgfen

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    I doubt, that is Russia after all, there is Putin and they have whole troll agency working on fake news, so probably no Russian anyplace on planet will need to bother with some silly EU legislation.

    Anyway that is bit off topic, but it is very unlikely anything Russia is moved by anything EU.
     
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