General computer talk/advice

Discussion in 'Computer Hardware' started by BlueScreen, Jan 25, 2015.

  1. Alex [ITA]

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    Change that to an SSD for far better performance or at least if you don't want to spend a lot (SSD aren't as cheap as HDDs) buy a 7200RPM HDD.
    Other than that it should support DX12 since the components are relatively new; DX12 comes with Windows 10 which should be pre-installed on that machine.
    As far as I know it should be able to play Beam at mid settings quite nicely: the CPU is comparable to an i3-8100 which is fine for gaming on a budget (for example you can expect around 40 fps on GTA V at 1080p on medium settings).
     
  2. SixSixSevenSeven

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    SSD doesn't change game performance
     
  3. Jetpackturtle

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    Here's the steps I had to take to get my brother's PC to work, and turn it into a gaming PC:
    1: Bought RX 460. Incompatible with motherboard.
    2: Flashed BIOS to try to get to work.
    3: Tried to install RX drivers. Still no boot and bootcheck beep.
    4: Bought 750ti.
    5: Crappy Raidmax PSU died. Replaced with EVGA 450 watt.
    6: Frequent BSODs after booting. Tried to see if it was a default driver issue.
    7: Re-disabled HD Graphics. System now boots.
    8: Rummaged around for an hour trying to find EVGA's drivers.
    9 Success, he now has a capable budget PC which he has christened the "little gaming computer that could"
     
  4. Alex [ITA]

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    I agree it doesn't change game performance, but it's way better than an hdd since it can boot Windows and load apps much faster.
     
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  5. Michaelflat

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    ssd boot drive + 1tb hdd

    i have 7200rpm 3.5in drives, but i recommend going with 2.5in 5400rpm drives, unless performance is absolutely necessary, since they are a lot quieter and put out less heat
     
  6. Alex_Farmer557

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    is it possible to use a floppy disc as boot disc
    just as a joke
     
  7. Jetpackturtle

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    no
     
  8. JBatic

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    if you are running something such as MS-DOS or early Windows, yes
     
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  9. redrobin

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    God no. 2.5" drives are not at all rated for the duties associated with a desktop (enterprise-grade not withstanding). They're also intolerably slow. It doesn't matter if performance isn't necessary or not. Moreover, some basic research with Seagate Enterprise 2.5" vs. Seagate Enterprise 3.5" drives shows a MTBF delta of around 500,000 hours. That's half the life of a standard drive.

    I also used to run 2.5" drives in a desktop setting. Several drives in my stack of dead ones came from that (and they're all Western Digital, go figure). All they did was hold data and nothing more.
     
  10. Michaelflat

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    goodness me, i've seen it all, my grandparents computer (my first gaming pc) a dell dimension e520:


    has managed to be overclocked, with a core 2 quad qx6800 to 3.99GHz http://valid.x86.fr/bg4n0r
    insane! and on the stock cooler i believe...

    also that stock cooler, quite a big one that, 120mm fan at the front, and that can go all the way up to 3200rpm when it wants to (literally never but maybe under this kinda overclock)

    mosfet heatsink though and need to take the fan off the motherboard as there isn't enough power over that corner of the board :p and force it to 100% to get 3.99, 3.78ghz is possible with stock fan curve, truly impressve.. the workstation equivalent Precision T3400:

    has achieved 4.15GHz out of a QX9650... impressive :p

    It's such a shame that BTX never really caught on, the results here are impressive, big fan blowing cold outside air over a big heatsink has excellent results, cpu is cool and the fan doesn't need to run quick as it's so big.. came and went with the LGA775... damn it's so good going through the history of computers and finding little gems like this

    excellent read:
    https://forums.tomshardware.com/faq/overclocking-dell-btx-computers.2528664/
     
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  11. Jetpackturtle

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  12. redrobin

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    BTX never caught on due to a variety of issues.

    It was an expensive form factor to design for
    It had little aftermarket support
    Minimal expansion in some cases (pun intended)
    Air exhaust was usually taken care of by the power supply
    Little to no AMD support at all
    The Pentium 4 couldn't be cooled effectively

    And above all, it competed directly with the much more flexible ATX standard. A funky footnote in computing history for sure, though.
     
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  13. Michaelflat

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    reinstalling macos on my mba late 2010 as the latest macos not only is it a laggy mess at times with bugs that never are fixed, but it has this really annoying feature called "SIP" that you can't disable, system integrity protection, so hacks like booting off windows using a USB drive instead of an optical one, that requires you to modify the bootcamp app, this has worked in the past, but it's a faff changing permissions and stuff... NOW you can't do this.. changing any system files is not allowed, as SIP kicks in and prevents you from doing so... I am the one who owns this computer, let me do whatever the hell i want, even if it will cause system corruption...

    so on goes macosx lion upgrading to mavericks no further..
    and so will windows 7
    and that will be it

    oof turns out the gpu just doesn't hw decode.. i'll still keep windows for fun i guess.. but damn i need to get rid of this macbook, it's not that useful :p

    4 nvidia geforce drivers later, and it works!!!! only one specific driver works, the others cause graphical glitches, break the power management, or do both :p
     
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  14. Joeyfuller2000

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    I bought a Windows Phone.
    It's not what you think.
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    This is the Fujitsu LOOX F-07C.
    It runs both Symbian and Windows 7.
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    It was made for the Japanese market a few years back. There are ways to get the phone to work in English.
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    IMG_1240.jpg

    As for using it as a device to make calls and send messages, I am planning on switching to this for a while. I'll let you know how it is as I go. Yes, it is unlocked.
     
  15. Michaelflat

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    interesting.. imagine that but with modern day internals, that would fly!


    also on the macbook, my gpu drivers have no brightness control, so have to do a registry tweak for that, and then windows updates decided to overwrite my gpu driver, so off i go uninstall it, then i install the wrong one, do the registry tweak and find i have terrible artifacting. (new drivers do this..) soo off comes the driver, windows updates decides to configure itself.. on comes the other driver and we are back in business, but we do have to install those 191 updates, and do a security scan, so it's doing that, and the battery is flat, so it's charging also, which means a very hot laptop with maxed out fans.. i really need to clean out the fans tbh..


    Trying to get my pc to shut down it's hard-drives at idle.. they never do.. found there is an intel rapid storage technology glitch, so i swapped my system to raid, installed the fix, and nothing.. (swapping to raid mode was a faff, wait for windows to bluescreen 3-4 times until it starts startup repair, only then i can enter safe mode, which i do nothing in and it fixes the issue (hmm..) so i find raid doesn't work, uninstall the intel drivers, which reboots my machine and then whoops didn't turn off raid, so i turn off raid (to go to ahci) and the 3-4 restarts do their thing and we get there in the end.. back to where we started..


    still not completely sure what is keeping my hard-drives awake..

    found it! Hwinfo reading drive temp, speedfan also reading drive temp, and corsair link (guess what) reading drive temp all kept the drives awake! now those programs are set to not intefere with my hard-drives and now finally silence!
     
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  16. SixSixSevenSeven

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    GPD pocket 2 and the one mix yoga 2
     
  17. Michaelflat

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    more pocket console, than phone..

    also offtopic, but it still boggles my mind how efficient mac osx and safari is compared to windows.. like not only is web-browsing pretty damn snappy on the core 2 duo, it jumps up a cpu power state, gets the render done quickly, and finishes the job before the fan ramps up, and even if it does get quite toasty during the web render, once it's finished, the cpu must drop down to it's 800mhz or so powersaving state as the cpu temps drop, yet despite all this, the scrolling is lag free, and cpu is cool... this is impossible to replicate under windows :p
     
  18. SixSixSevenSeven

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    You mean precisely how windows works....
    Windows literally has the exact same behaviour in chrome, firefox and edge.


    ANd nah, the GPD Pocket and the one mix are both tiny laptops. You want the GPD Win 2 for the pocket console.
    --- Post updated ---
    Boom, sure enough, just duplicated exact same behaviour with latest chrome on my razer blade, only difference being it settled in at 1.2GHz rather than 800MHz, but it is a 7700HQ
     
  19. calvin1390

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    Heres my prototype of a mid 2003 pda/portable computer
     

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  20. Michaelflat

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    1.2ghz on a 7700hq is orders of magnitude faster than the 800mhz or even 1.6ghz on a core 2 duo :p

    there is a measurable difference in scroll performance on edge and chrome, chrome loads pages faster but scrolling is laggy, edge is the opposite, you really notice this effect if you use something ultra low end like an intel atom..
     
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