Windows 10 issues

Every time I tried to load Beam_ng drive it just doesn't do anything in windows 10. I will not load. I've tried following the web page and tried to make changes for hopes it would load and unfortunately NOTHING.
Can someone point me in the right direction to fix the cluster fuck I'm dealing with here.

Unfortunately the ONLY reason I'm running win 10 is because Microsoft is eliminating all the updates for windows 7 and all versions of it. So I buckled down and installed windows 10.

CRAP is all I have to say. I really like windows 7 ultimate and never had any issues. Unfortunately, I have to say fare well to 7.
So could someone please help me with this complex issue? ​

 

Reinstalled the entire BeamNG?

 

Try Reinstalling BeamNG and see if that will work. If that doesn't work, then try Reinstalling Windows 10 and then try that.

 

This is probebly the worst reason to not using W7 anymore. W7 no longer update does not prevent you from using by any means. And W10 forces update against users will.
You should really continue to use W7 until your conputer is no longer working. Please turn back to W7 if possible. You never had any issues when using W7, in W10 a lot of issue is expected, such as this thread.

 

Updates are not needed, that is really just lies, security is done by totally other means than updates.

 

... Like what?

 

Hardware and proper browser with correct usage, that means no leeching and running everything like by default.

 

How does that patch security holes in the actual operating system?

 

By not exposing OS to internet. Never rely on OS to be layer of security, that is first big flaw of today's 'safety'. That is why you need hardware firewall and browser that isolates, not these modern popular big holes that call them browsers.

 

Right, the average consumer would do none of those. Let alone the technical knowledge you would need, a long with large unnecessary costs it just does not make sense. For example, just the firewall (for a decent one) would cost you anywhere from $300 - $450. A remote browser? Around 5-10 dollars a month.
Besides from that, a firewall is only going to do -so- much, it still won't patch holes in the OS.

You run a great risk running an non-supported OS and it's a dangerous thing to start advising people to not run a updated OS.

There is a reason why companies are willing to spend money switching from WIN7 to WIN10.

 

Don't run JS and your chances getting issues go down really a lot. Never use email client that runs scripts or does html, at least if you want to have better protection than any buggy patch will do.

Companies are sticking to Win 7 because it works, does not auto update which causes more problems than will ever solve etc.

Average users are food for data leeches, reason google stopped offer html only version of web mail, JS is so handy to get so much more data from you.

Win7 with even basic NAT box will be better than Win10. Data leeches are bigger issue than holes in OS.

Sadly update update update has been become some mantra of today, nobody just cares to actually check how much trouble that updating causes vs how much trouble you get from those holes.

Some years ago Yahoo got bit bad stuff on their home page, lot of infected machines, I had not even AV installed, visited their page when they had bad stuff running there and got nothing on my machine.

Average users, hmm better I don't comment on that, but I say pampering for everyone who does not know what he is doing is one of the things I don't like too much.

 

The thing is that not because W7 no longer update, but the very reason of W10 force update against users' will, which leads to many a problem.

W10 has more security holes than W7, beacuse although W7 no longer update, it updated for a long time, means that most holes are already patched. If there's some holes are not patched today and a malicious hacker want to attack him, that hacker would already exploit this very hole long time ago.
The reason Micro$oft forces Windows 10 to do update by Microsoft's command and not by user is that Microsoft can use these computer to test their software without asking it's users consent. Leading to lots of breakdowns(and of course more security holes). Users(that's us) are losing control of our very own computer because of this. If it continue like this, Windows 10 might become malicious software itself. Even worse, M$ might delibrately induce security holes(aka. backdoors). Recently I found that when I AFK for a while the computer's energy comsumption skyrocketed and the cooling fans run like hell. Then I open taskmgr to find the problem, or simply move my mouse, the energy comsumption drops and the cooling fans silenced. Works like being controled by a hacker . I don't think companys will use this OS. As time passes and more and more companies reailize this problem they will eventually switch to Linux.

 

Any company with just a little respect for their security has upgraded - including the one I support with over 2000 employees.
No Windows 10 does not have issues, the users are usually the issue.

Again, you're talking solutions which would require at least some technical knowledge.

If whatever you're doing works for you - that's great! You should use the OS which suits you, and that's your business. But recommending, again, REGULAR USERS to not update their PC is not okay and a huge security issue.

Here's just some of the patches:
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=windows+security+update+2018

Running a not supported OS will give you none of those in the future.

Furthermore, not running an updated OS will eventually run you into comparability issues as both hardware and software manufacturer will stop the support.
This will just give you even more issues, and then you can continue to use your duct tape solution but it's all going to explode in the end - from what could be avoided with an upgrade.

 

Windows 10 is more of duct tape solution, it is not robust, it is not used in critical systems.

Regular users don't do computer upgrades in first place, they pay for people who have at least some technical understanding. If person has no technical understanding, it should be ask why such person is using computer in first place as computers are highly technical equipment and do require at least some technical skills to operate.

If you are going to use pneumatic drill without any skills or talent, it won't end well, why it needs to be anything else with computers? These are not toasters, these are not TV, nor tablets, so skills are needed and required to use computers.

 

There's a lot of things I disagree with right there, and I think the discussion would just go on and on.
It's utterly BS that only a technical knowledge person is or should be using a PC.

My main point was that you should not advice people not to upgrade their PC.
I just wanted that left there for ordinary users to read, and I got just that. Good day

 

What should a person like me, a person that is very confused about this topic, do?

 

You should go back to Windows 7. It runs BeamNG pretty nicely because you don't have so much overhead clogging up your CPU. I had Windows 10 on my Toshiba and it would hardly even open. I put Windows 7 back on it and it worked fine, even for an AMD Athlon II. I did some benchmarks and they revealed that Windows 7 is about 50% faster. That being said, it also depends on what kind of PC you have. For example Windows 7 would be great for older machines, (like my dual-core Toshiba) but not so great for a newer PC with an I7 or a Ryzen 7.

 

I have fixed thousands of PCs and I can tell you, those windows patches are not the thing they are advertised to be, very simple means can do same effect without any need to suffer PC not booting or game not working because new windows update.

Sadly this update update update has become almost a religion today, people really believe they need to update, even it would be a downgrade.

But thanks to everyone believing such saving effect of updates is that software makers and hardwaremanufacturers stop supporting older OS which would do just fine, that is only real reason why someone should consider upgrading.

General population has moved very largely to tablets, tv's and phones to do their internet stuff today, PC is left more and more to enthusiasts and those who work requires a computer, but tablets are going to be replacing more PCs even at workplaces and thanks to nature of PC it is always going to require bit more technical understanding than alternatives.

For example one needs to deal with drivers and driver versions, which recently have cause really lot of trouble to people with Windows 10 as working driver versions were upgraded automatically to less working ones.
Taking computer to service for fixing game not running each time would cost a lot, so you need some technical ability for that.

 

Of course update is better most of the time. But how the update perform is another story.
When users can choose when and what to update, they have control over what they have. Auto update works for people lack of technical knowledge and when there's problem, they can always remove the update that caused this problem. People prefer manual update will choose the best time according to their schedules and only install patchs that are important. In either case, if the update turns bad, they can always disable it.
Forced update is the software developers control the computer(at least partially) Which likes breaks into your home to replace a "insecure" gas pipe when you're not home. When granted this privilege the OS devs can put whatever they want to computers that have this OS. This will lead to exploitation, harming the users.
In conclusion, update? Yes. Update to Windows 10? No. Since BeamNG only support Windows, users that have Windows 7 should continue to use Windows 7.

 

I agree 100%! Then again you want get only the important updates. For example, I loved Windows 2k but there is no way I can run anything useful on that, (or the 32MB of RAM and a 900mhz AMD Duron that PC had) I really only update my computers when it will do a major fix like virus protection, (again in Windows 2000 the second it connects to the internet I will have every virus from the iloveu worm to wannacry) Windows 10 is not that great to me. It is too full of junk that slows everything down. Windows 7 and 8 my favorite OS's.
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I have not used auto update since vista.
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I have not used auto update since vista.