I would like a comparison of PCs?

I wouldn't build my own PC because I know I am ignorant on how a computer is built, so, I would get someone to install the new pieces and ask an expert on the best way to go (best products to get). Its just good to have better insight on computer upgrading and so far I can play games on the most max they offer (over going ultra settings to max everything for some games) and still play at a about 20 FPS when I am getting spammed with explosions extremely fast or have too much detail in a single area < (very rare) the apps go out usually before the computer begins to lag. I don't feel I should overclock either, the manufactures made the CPU programmed with a pretty efficient way to run and I love to make things last as long as they can with good enough performance, the only thing I see changing is my Hard Drive to a SSD. Yes, I will have power supply changed accordingly and driver software installments as needed but I will see what a computer expert in my area has to say.

So, thanks for the help and extra insight.

 

Your 680 will power BeamNG fine. It's only the smallest step behind my 770 and I can max the game and add extra settings from the nvida control panel.

 

CPU programmed for efficiency? I lolled, honestly I did.

 

Whats so funny about it :| ? Its not a bad way to go for manufacturer settings, most my friends don't care for overclocking either. I only said a pretty efficient way to run, meaning I am not having to replace my parts from wearing them down to soon and it doesn't cost that much wattage which saves money too, is that not more efficient?

 

You just seem to have no clue about how computer hardware works.

 

I don't know somethings, that doesn't mean I am totally blinking retarded about computers.

 

I realize that, and I mean no offense, but you are apparently ignorant about the inner workings and architecture of processors. I'd just suggest reading up a bit on how they work.

 

I have been lately and I really appreciate the help, its late over here anyways, sorry for the grump.

 

What I meant is that the CPU is a pile of transistors and wires (well, ok, its 1 silicon die now but they can be built from discrete components in theory). The CPU isn't "programmed", its a piece of hardware (we shall ignore CISC complexities such as microcoding which also do not effect the power efficiency). The only code/programming inside your computer is the operating system and its software, not the CPU itself. Why was it so funny, I do apologise but computer systems engineering is actually my field so its a topic where I have more knowledge than most and do find things that shouldnt be very amusing rather amusing.

AMD chips do scale well to overclocking if you have a decent cooler on them.


For the cores thing. They put multiple cores inside 1 chip these days. To go from a quad core to octa core you need to swap the entire CPU for an octa core model. To swap from AMD to intel for the best performance you need a new motherboard aswell as different processor families and generations come in different socket types and each motherboard only supports 1 type of socket.


If I were you, I'd leave that machine alone. It should be working fine as is. I certainly wouldnt swap an HDD for an SSD, what you really do is uninstall windows from the HDD and install it on the SSD but leave both in the machine. SSDs have tiny capacities, you can't really run a machine on an SSD alone. Run windows and your favourite software from the SSD, everything else goes on HDD.

 

Thank you so much for that response, that was exactly what I needed to know! And I didn't mean the CPU is programmed directly I know the operating system is what makes all the drivers work for the most part, I was talking about the software that controls CPU speed and power like "AMD Catalyst Control Center" I was just saying its manufacture preset is good and I don't wish to mess with overclocking was all. Despite all of that, thanks for teaching me about CPUs, how they work, and the difference from a dual core to a multi-processor, and your advice on a solid state drive is most handful.

 

The new AMD FX processors claim to have eight cores but are only quads with each core split so it can to alot more processes on each core which vastly reduces processing power. considering you can run what an eight core should be handling on basically a quad.

 

More complicated than that bud. Each module (what AMD calls it) does contain 2 cores but with several resources shared which would not normally be shared on a multi core processor. Siamese twin cores is the best I can think of, there are 2 cores but they are connected. One AMD "octacore" processor is 4 modules.

 

If you havent bought it yet, and you want to go with the 8350, just know that the 8320 is the SAME processor, just clocked slightly lower. Since you plan on getting a watercooling kit for it you can overclock it to higher speeds anyway. I have the 8320 and it works fine for me, i am aircooling, but did have it stable for a short time at 5ghz, however i lowered it to 4.3 so it would run cooler. Theres no point in getting an 8350 when you can get the 8320 for cheaper and still get the same performance out of it.
However if you go that route make sure your motherboard is both up to the job of just running the 8320/8350 (i guess some had issues providing enough power?) and that it allows you to overclock. I am using the Gigabyte GA990FX UD3 and it works great.

 

btw @OP (no offense meant, just thought you'd probably want to know this) but cpu's don't have driver's, the MB'S Chipset does, but not the cpu itself (chipset is closest you'll get to a cpu driver)