Scrapping a running and driving, newish car because it fails emissions? Seems pretty wasteful. Why does it fail emissions? It's good to know your limits and not be overconfident as a new driver. Overconfidence is a very common cause of accidents for inexperienced drivers. You have to take it easy and work slowly up to finding the limits of yourself and your vehicle if that's what you wish to do. Preferably practice this where there are minimal obstacles to collide with. I'm not sure I've seen that setup in any 19/20 mustangs. I drove some 17s and plenty of 18s but it's been too long to even try to remember the entertainment setup in those. Seems like most of the newer mustangs have full screens. When I think of a mustang center stack this comes to mind. I want to be clear that I'm not denying that there are still minimal setups available.
I feel the U.S. mandate probably has a lot to do with our market's liking for oversized suvs that you can't see anything out of.
Ask New York State. We asked around, yet to find any way to get the thing to pass emissions. Which means there's no way to make it street legal short of taking it to a state with lower standards. Which is a lot of work to get rid of my mom's old car.
It should pass emissions fine as long as the fuel injection and emissions controls are functioning as designed(no engine light). Does it have a check engine light?
It's my mother's car, I'm not that familiar with the particulars. I know the timing chain has issues and our mechanic told her that he would have to take the engine out to fix whatever is wrong with it since some related component is at the back of the engine. At that point repairs would exceed the value, it has 240k miles after all. The car has been a nightmare to own to be honest. It's been through multiple alternaters and a transmission. Interior is even worse quality than my Daimler era jeep, even though it's the Eddie Bauer edition. Also, this thing is cursed, it's like a magnet for other cars to rear end. This morning someone offered her $360 for it as a parts car, so that's the plan right now.
I actually like the mandate. Makes reversing and specifically parking much easier in pretty much any vehicle. I haven’t noticed the base price of cars skyrocket since. Maybe increased as much as $1,000 or so.
I got a new car in 2014 (a Civic), and I went out of my way to get a car with a backup camera. After having a car with one, I never want to be without it again.
Like I mentioned the other day, it infuriates me that the good saftey equipment are often expensive extras or not offered at all (360 camera, radar cruise control, HUDs, etc...) while the distracting/less useful ones are difficult to avoid and sometimes things that I consider basic are missing completely (like lockouts for the infotainment system and the annoying seatbelt chime under more circumstances like going at speed without a hand on the wheel) I don't mean that I don't like rearview cameras and the like, just that it's easy to rely on them too much and they often have a smaller FOV than people realize, leading to people turning/backing up when they shouldn't.
Don't' quote me on this but I believe automatic braking and something else (lane keep assist maybe?) are becoming mandatory in the near future too.
That's probably what I'm thinking of, I just remember hearing about it somewhere. Automatic braking and lane keep assist are among some of the features that I am perfectly okay with the average (idiot) driver having but I find annoying and in some cases more trouble than they're worth.
No, what it has to do with is a very small number of negligent parents who back over their own kids because they can't be bothered to check behind their cars before they start backing up, and a much larger number of the kneejerk-emotion crowd who demand that we all be saddled with yet another additional expense, weight, and complexity because of them.
Well they are also great for people with neck issues... And I'm sure they are great for busy parking lots, though parking nose out works even better since again, the FOV on those cameras is not as big as many people seem to think. I still think it would be better if they mandated them as affordable options rather than as standard equipment, but I don't think it's a big deal as long as people stop forgetting that their body comes with eyes as standard equipment.
I'm starting to wonder if this actually happened to you when you were a kid (Pistol Charlie?). It would certainly explain a lot. I was going to say we can add backup cameras to the list of things Chuck hates for no reason, but I guess we can file it under "any technology since 1993." Also, weight? Really? How much do you think a cheap webcam and a little LCD weigh? And even if they weighed twenty pounds, it still wouldn't matter because the majority of new cars sold are not, in fact, performance cars. (As previously mentioned, SUVs with ridiculously small rear windows are currently abundant, and they need backup cameras). As for price, I did some research. I looked up the original base price of 15 vehicles in 2016 (before the mandate) and 2019 (2020 model year), and adjusted them for inflation. Then I calculated how much the price increased over that time period. The average of every price increase on this list is -$63.40. Despite gaining backup cameras and a few other mandated safety features, cars have generally decreased in price in the past three years. So your argument that they add expense is bull.
No. I don't hate backup cameras, I hate them being mandatory. In a vacuum, they're just one more option to not want. Mandated, they're just one more BS reason we can't have the Caterham Seven in the US. Color me surprised... and I'm still planning to give those numbers a thorough check of my own, because unless these cars are being sold at a loss, a car getting cheaper and more complex at the same time - over a very short timeframe - makes zero sense.
Wouldn't it categorize as a type of kit car and thus bypassing the mandate? In another case there should be inexpensive cameras that could be installed. Oh well... In another note, I've been contemplating on what to get for a new-ish car for college, as I have a used up '05 Suzuki XL-7 that despite having 80k miles is having drivetrain problems and I don't want to put up with that. I'm really interested in a '12-'15 Civic Si or a last gen Mazda3 manual, a FR-S could be fun as well...
