General Car Discussion

Discussion in 'Automotive' started by HadACoolName, Mar 6, 2015.

  1. SixSixSevenSeven

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    I am guessing you lack a lot on the common sense front
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    Tesla have done a good job at designing a car, they just don't have the decades of manufacturing experience, and perhaps also need to work on completing the full loop of design for manufacture
     
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  2. austen64

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  3. SixSixSevenSeven

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    That I missed, my apologies, though there is still Google at your fingertips to answer queries faster.
     
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  4. default0.0player

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    What I meant is computerized cars or AI cars ,not Smart, please not to be confused.
    Self driving cars can be safe and non self driving cars can also be dangerous. The thing is driver's controlled priority. If the computer has higher priority than the driver, the occupants are at risk, see above the non self driving aircraft accidents).
    1. That depends
    EVs require some different "maintenance"(actually not maintenance) compared to ICE. Every heard of "Vampire Drain"? It's electric vehicles such as Tesla lose energy when parked for a long time. The vehicle owner should monitor the battery and energy consumption frequently. Make sure the battery is at 40% for longest storage life.
    Also driving into water puddles(even shallow ones) is not recommended, high water levels could flood the intake of an ICEV. However in an EV this doesn't happen but electric components could get corroded and vehicles may break down a few days later.

    2. Electric vehicles have lower center of gravity than their ICE counterparts, which means less likely to flip over. However the suspension needs to be reinforced to handle the increased weight.
     
  5. 95Crash

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    I don't drive yet, though I'm planning on learning how to this year.
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    Thank you for apologizing. I will try to look up more about this type of stuff :)

    Thank you for the information :)
     
  6. SixSixSevenSeven

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    The loss on the model 3 was quite bad until a recent firmware update. Was about 15 miles of range per day, now about 1-2 miles per day
     
  7. austen64

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    Never underestimate the power of technology.
     
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  8. MisterKenneth

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    And will exist long after. Oil reserves are finite, once they run out, well, what will internal combustion engines run on then? They surely can't run on air, and we can't just conjure up more oil like wizards. Unfortunately, as much as I love them, I don't see ICE vehicles having a long future ahead of them, and that is because of the day oil reserves run dry. I also wonder if some Middle Eastern countries will be able to survive it too, since a lot of them generate money from exporting oil products abroad.

    With solar energy, as long as the Sun exists, which scientists estimate is at least 5 - 7 billion years, electric engines will have a near infinite source of electricity. And if humanity leaves this solar system and colonizes other worlds, those stars they orbit around can be even more sources of electricity.

    The only way I can see internal combustion engines surviving as long as electric engines will, is if we find more oil reserves on other terrestrial bodies, like other planets, moons, asteroids, etc.


    And anyone documented on r/IdiotsInCars
     
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  9. 95Crash

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    You make a very good point about this smart car/plane thing. By the way @SuperAusten64, You are awesome :D
     
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  10. austen64

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    BREAKING NEWS
    NASA RECEIVES 89.2 BILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDING FROM U.S. GOVERNMENT
    The U.S. government has a history of invading foreign countries for oil, leading to people making jokes about them doing ridiculous things to get even more.
     
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  11. default0.0player

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    How long would it take for battery raw materials to run dry? AFAIK they are rare earth materials.
     
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  12. 95Crash

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    Thanks for explaining that joke to me.

    This ICE cars post is really informative and educational. You make a very good point about oil reserves :)
     
  13. MisterKenneth

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    It's all based on what all I have seen and read. I don't have an exact date on when said oil reserves will go dry, as I couldn't find an explicit date, but I do know that it has been established that the day is coming. The closest thing I have managed to find is a few sources suggesting that they could run out in 50 years, but I'm not 100% sure about it.
     
  14. austen64

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    That is a good point, one frequently brought up by those doubting electric cars, and is really the only legitimate case against EVs barring personal opinion.

    This article provides some interesting information, though I’m not certain of its reputability, and its main argument seems to be “yeah, but it’s not just mined for EV batteries, it’s mined for nearly all consumer electronics, too,” which doesn’t seem like much of an argument to me.
     
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  15. 95Crash

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    Fair enough, I hope that these oil reserves can last just long enough for the world to get our technology figured out :)
     
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  16. MotherTrucker02

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    Jokes on you I can run my diesel off the local McDonalds.
     
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  17. CHEESE!

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    This is bullshit, plain and simple. Electronics were introduced to planes because humans are unreliable. Eastern Airlines Flight 401 crashed because the humans flying were trying to fix a lightbulb. A modern smartplane with a modern, sophisticated autopilot would not have crashed. Aeroflot Flight 593 would probably have been prevented. Also the MAX crashed because it is a shitbox that should never have taken to the sky. The electronics were there to prevent the shitbox from crashing, they just weren't quite good enough. The fundamental issue was the engine location.
     
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  18. SixSixSevenSeven

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    The max had a silly system that had redundant sensors, but would still accept the data from the failed sensor, the sensor failed. The pilots also weren't trained in correctly disabling that system. Boeing also self certified the system rather than external governing bodies, something that while legal at time, is now being reviewed in case that shit happens again.

    Mix of software bug that should never have reached production and human error.
     
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  19. ManfredE3

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    Backseat of my aunt's Altima at a major intersection

    My mom, in the front seat: (Aunt), Can you see?
    Aunt: if I move up I could
    My mom: So why don't you?
    Aunt: *Shrug*
    Me: So this is how I'll die. Not going to lie, was hoping for something more interesting.
     
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  20. 95Crash

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    So, you're saying that human are unreliable and that Eastern Airlines Flight 401 crashed because humans were trying to fix a light bulb? Well, I looked up this crash and here's a quote from Wikipedia about the Eastern Airlines Flight 401 crash.

    "This was later discovered to be due to a burned-out light bulb."

    So, you are probably correct about the light bulb situation with the plane :)
    Believe it or not, the term "silly system" actually sounds quite funny in my opinion.

    By the way @default0.0player, I think you make a good point about this "smart" car/tech thing. I don't think a remote controlled car would be a good idea, especially if you couldn't even see the car.
     
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