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Weird DCT Behavior From Sunburst

Discussion in 'Troubleshooting: Bugs, Questions and Support' started by Beam NG Driver, Mar 17, 2020.

  1. Beam NG Driver

    Beam NG Driver
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    Note: I do know that the DCT from the Sunburst is being worked on, but i don´t think you´ve adressed these two issues:
    1. Sometimes, the downshift behavior is really off
    2. The engine revs up unnecessarily high in 1st gear, even when throttle is at like 10%

    I´m using a stock sunburst with the DCT.
    To give you a better idea of what i mean, here is a video showing these issues (I´ve added some UI apps to help you gather more information):
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1_ROLu_wX9hRka98Bbst6mXAfeLsReiHY/view?usp=sharing

    1st issue: At the beginning of the video i only press the throttle slightly, yet the engine still revs unnecessarily high.
    2nd issue:The car seems to lower my throttle to 25% when downshifting. Maybe that´s the cause of this weird behavior?
     
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  2. SebastianJDM

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    i agree. also, just to let you know, the 1st issue is easily solvable. the transmission is set to shift up at 2700rpm in first gear (at the lowest).
    ive attached a file that i made really quickly, you can give it a shot and see if it drives better or not.

    the second issue is due to the gearbox trying to rev match downshift, which is defined by a set throttle amount. i think a better system would be to have a minimum throttle amount to downshift (it will automatically give 25% throttle if your throttle is less than that) while the clutches are doing their magic, but no maximum. or maybe a different maximum, so that there's a range of working throttle values. then, a soft rev limiter would be employed at the rpm the engine needs to be at, to prevent over-rev-matching when throttle is high. not easily solvable, but the entire dct system is getting reworked so hopefully the choppy behavior will be tuned out.

    in the attached "mod" is a "fixed 6-speed dual-clutch transmission" that's a lot less aggressive during low-throttle situations. idk if it works since i dont have time to test it right now. just quickly cobbled it together for you.
     

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  3. Beam NG Driver

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    Well that's a lot of information, thank you! I'll test it later or tomorrow and let you know whether it works or not.
     
  4. Beam NG Driver

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    I´m sorry i didn´t response earlier, but i literally forgot to test the mod out. Sadly it doesn´t work properly, the sunburst can´t transfer power to the wheels after using the fixed 6 Speed DCT
     
  5. default0.0player

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    I noticed the problem, and even you set jbeam to upshift at 2100RPM in 1st, it still won't shift at 2100 at 5% throttle.

    The reason is the DCT uses the very same behavior of launch control logic in manual with clutch assist on. Thus if the clutch is not 100% engaged, the upshift logic won't initiate.
    Just use manual version of the very same vehicle, set clutch assist on, then hold brake and gas in 1st and note the RPM, then the DCT won't upshift before this very RPM.
     
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