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Purchasing a model for use in BeamNG

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ThreeDTech21, Jun 2, 2014.

  1. ThreeDTech21

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    I know how to model a car, I made a hyundai elantra which I am still working on and is near release, but I want to start purchasing models for use, saves time and I honestly don't feel like taking the hours to model a full car anymore, sometimes I much rather purchase a model from a 3D site.

    I found a good website for purchasing models http://do3d.com/ this is there fair use policy, is there anything in here that would prohibit its use as a mod (non profit) in BeamNG??

    agreement:

    i. Permitted Uses. (Editorial Restrictions Applied)

    The seller grants a buyer a world-wide, royalty-free, non-transferable, and non-exclusive license to:

    • Modify or alter the product(s) as necessary for buyer use/projects, as allowed for elsewhere in these terms and conditions, provided that the rights to any derivative work shall belong to the copyright owner. You may use such derivative work only as permitted in accordance with these terms and conditions. All copyrights with respect to such derivative work are assigned to its owner(s), in which the parties hereby agree is valid under the US (and other International) Copyright Law.
    • Use renderings for personal projects in still or animated form when not intended to re-distribute, re-sell, or re-use the actual file or any other part of its content.
    • Use renderings as part of editorials such as news or personal newsletters.
    • Use renderings as part of public interest event editorials.
    Disclaimer: You acknowledge that our content(s) are not allowed for commercial activities unless you have an approval from its right holder.

    ii. Prohibited Uses.

    You may not:

    • Use the product and its contents in still or animated form for re-sale.
    • Transfer the rights to the product(s) or accompanying materials (if applicable), except as specifically provided for elsewhere in this Agreement.
    • Copy or reproduce the product(s) or accompanying materials (if applicable), except as specifically provided for in paragraph i (Permitted Uses).
    • USE THE PRODUCT(S) IN ANY WAY THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED DEFAMATORY, PORNOGRAPHIC, OBSCENE, IMMORAL, OR FRAUDULENT.
    • Distribute the product(s) in any form in which items and accompanying materials/files are accessible by any program, application, or software.
    • Re-sell, distribute or sub-license the product(s), accompanying material, (if applicable), or the rights to use the product(s) to anyone for any purpose, except as specifically provided for elsewhere in this Agreement.

    TERMS

    All licenses will terminate immediately without notice once a transaction gets reversed, void, and canceled by any reason. If this happens, you must terminate your license by destroying the product(s), along with any copies or archives of it or accompanying materials (if applicable), and ceasing to use the product(s) for any purpose. The license also terminates if at any time you fail to comply with the terms of this Agreement. In this case, you hereby agree to destroy all copies and archives of the product(s), to cease using the product(s) for any purpose, and to confirm to the copyright holder in writing that you have complied with these requirements.


     
  2. Calais

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    • Distribute the product(s) in any form in which items and accompanying materials/files are accessible by any program, application, or software.


    Maybe this one, because people will have access to the .dae upon downloading the mod.
     
  3. ThreeDTech21

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    Oh that's true we'll it was worth a try :)


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  4. Nadeox1

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    Spend 39$ on a model and release it as free mod, why?
     
  5. dkutch

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    Because logic.
     
  6. ThreeDTech21

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    It's also comparable to working on my personal model for 47 hours and releasing it as a free mod..

    And that's part of the license, it's $40 but no profit can be made out of its use.

    I'm assuming that would also include a retopo also, my next plan is to look at the wireframe pics of it from the website so I can at least mimick the topology when I create it, makes it that much easier :) placing the vertices in the right place can be killer on some cars

    I don't mind spending money on it (possibly saving dozens of hours of work) and release it as free mod but according to the agreement releasing it in any form is prohibited :-/ I will have to continue to make my own models, and some time in the future Im assuming I will get good enough to speed model anyway (4-6 hours) check youtube, some guy did a Lamborghini in 15min!

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  7. Nadeox1

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    Taking hours or days to make a model is perfectly normal, especially when you are going to model each part of it.
    If you wish to spend money, go on, but is it really worth it? For what then? Just saving some time modelling something by yourself? Most of people here appreciate self-made work :)
     
  8. ThreeDTech21

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    True and it's the only way to get good and fast anyway, but I think it would be worth it in some instances. Just like a game programmer using a game engine like cryengine or tourqe3D instead of creating it thier own engine from scratch.

    Especially if you find a model that has free use license such as mine, or Gabes, why not use it?

    But to agree with you, none of this compares to making your own creation :)


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  9. shockwaffleman

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    I don't really see a point in this mostly because it's 40 actuall bucks. That's alot for a free mod...
     
  10. Autofan

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    I guess I could see how some people would prefer to buy a model than spend hours making a model themselves, however I don't think you could publicly distribute it. Also some of those cars seem to have a high poly count, but I guess you can always reduce that.
     
  11. Davidbc

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    You can do it and then release it anonymously.
     
  12. kruleworld

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    Or do the right thing and NOT release it, but use it yourself
     
  13. ThreeDTech21

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    Drowsysam found a way to release it without the .dae file included..

    This means that the license won't be infringed which means I can do it now :)


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  14. SixSixSevenSeven

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    Well if you have permission to use it in that form (double check with them but sounds to me like you should be fine) then nobody here can really complain.
     
  15. RogueShadow0007

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    By looking at the terms of use, there's nothing that really specifically states that you cannot EDIT the model at all. You would end up editing the models anyways, in order to implement them into BeamNG. Unless I'm misreading something, you very well COULD buy the model and then edit it for use in BeamNG, therefore making the model your own 'version'.

    For example: Look at GTA, the developers used vehicles that looked very similar to real cars, but had very minute differences (sometimes just the hood emblem was changed), so as not to spark any conflict with the respective auto makers. The models were clearly identifiable as certain brand name vehicles.

    A few adjustments, and you technically should be good to go. Again, I may be misreading something, but according to the terms of use, it's not specifically stated ('In any form' - pertaining to the exact original copy).

    That's why they are selling the models - for end users to "edit" them for their specific uses. It's kind of a grey area, but it is your "specific" use to modify the model(s) for BeamNG.
     
  16. Rokzy rules

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    To be honest they look a bit too high poly for beamng drive but I'm probably wrong
     
  17. ThreeDTech21

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    For all who are wondering here is the car I want to buy.

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    I very well could model this but the time it takes.. I'll give it a week to think about it.
     
  18. 3dnooblet

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    Nice an optima :D.

    Just bought a 2014 optima last week :). (non turbo :( )
     
  19. ThreeDTech21

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    Yup got mines last month, I love it! even non turbo has some zip

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    After thinking about it for a while I decided to make the model myself : ) It'll give me more experience and get me closer to speed modeling, since there aren't any quality blue prints of this car yet I have to model it using these.. :mad:

    Kia Front 2.jpg

    Kia Right 2.jpg

    Kia top 2.jpg



    Only problem Im thinking about is how do i prove that I actually made it and its not the one from the website?...
     
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  20. 3dnooblet

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    Keep a screenshot record of it while being built, thats enough to prove the process matches the end result.

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    this might help.

    Side view is perfect, front\rear seems a bit off, nevertheless its better then nothing :).
     

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