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Too many things have no reasons.

Equally, you don't drive at the Moon, Jupiter and Venus AND SUN. Because no reason.

 

That is true, but you don't have a slider in your dining room that allows you to change the Earth's gravity either.
My opinion is really mixed here because I wouldn't find a use to actually being able to change the numbers that the weighing pad shows by simply changing gravity, but I also would find it a neat little detail. Also I assume it would be more unnecessary work for you guys.

 

Attention to detail

 

I don't really need in that function, really. But simply

No, that's no problem. Just fault, which feature, not related with real. Real usefulness is equal to have different gravity in game. And moreover science knowledge, about weight changing by change the gravity value.
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Sure, thanks.

 

I never meant to criticize you work by saying "sounds like trash". I meant that I personally didn't like them and that I felt like it might have been the case for other users too. I'm sorry if I phrased it badly or in a uncivilized way, I'm Belgian after all so my English can't be perfect.

While it is completely true that it sounded like boxer pops, I personally thought that they fitted the car really well considering they were "the wrong sound". And by the way, the he current ones are kind of growing on me.
Thank you for taking the time to reply to my comment.

 

It's nice to have the third brake light for the barn doors of the Roamer !
But it will be even nicer to have also the wires for the rear defrost.

 

Exactly, if you're able to change the gravity in the game, that should affect other thing, like the weighing pad being able to change value depending on the gravity, because that's how an IRL weighing pad calibrated for Earth gravity would work if it was on the moon.
It would be a neat attention to detail. I'm not saying I want it absolutely, I don't even care if it makes it into the game or not. It would simply be a cool detail.

 

I have to say that I am quite disappointed about the removal of the "informative" rating. I found it highly useful and cannot consider "like" or "agree" an worthy replacement. Informative was perfectly suited for a lot of technical discussions and the often great sources people quote or link towards to.

I am even more dissapointed that appearantly that it was done to fix certain people abusing the system... instead of giving those people a non voluntarily holiday from the forums.

You can abuse agree just as much if the point is to spam people with notifications imho. I fully agree that mods shouldnt have to deal with such crap so much in the first place but I fail to see why we just cannont punish those abusers instead of everyone.

I am probably not going to make myself popular with this... but I find "agree" and "like" much more the same than "informative"... and would as such would have rather nuked one of those instead of informative. Yes, I am aware that the forum rioted to get "agree" back. My opinion still stands, as does my disappointment about this decision.

 

it's very sad that some people decide to ruin it for the rest but i can't blame the mods for their decision, especially in such stressful times. however i agree, in future i would prefer for the people abusing the system to be punished rather than removing it altogether

 

I just dont see the issue, im not trying to spark an argument, im just speaking my side. I never used informative. Ive only ever seen it used sometimes and most of the time it was in a joking manner to mock people who weren't the brightest. If something is actually informative just like it. I honestly dont see a use for informative. Liking is for pictures and the such, you dont agree with a picture. Agreeing is for when you agree with something someone said. They are not the same nor are they interchangable.
Again, I;m not trying to spark anything, so I dont think anyone needs to respond to this, because im fully aware people have other opinions, Im just listing mine.

 

Why does the wild green Vivace have a speed limit of 250-260 km / h? it can be seen that the motor pulls further, why is it not possible to accelerate further? The same situation with weaker motors (1L 1.6l 2.0l) limitation is 170- 190 -220 km / h. Is it work as designed?

 

This, I think, is one of my favourite ways that people misuse scientific units. Take a 1kg mass, and use a bathroom scale to weigh it on earth. It will weigh about 10 Newtons. See, if you flip the scale upside down, and weigh the earth in the gravitational well of a 1kg mass, the earth will weigh 10 Newtons. The problem is simply that only a physicist will design a pair of scales that displays the correct units.

Your bathroom scales display units of mass(kg), or units of madness(lbs), but not units of weight(N). So your bathroom scales will say that on earth, a 1kg mass weighs 1kg. But your scales talk a lot of nonsense because if you flip them upside down, they will tell you that earth weighs 1kg. We know earth has the equivalent mass of an entire planet, it's safe to assume that scales are devices that measure weight and not mass. It's the easiest way I can think of to explain the difference.

Anyway, on the topic of 0.19... which I originally came here to ask about.

The Cherrier Vivace's bumper covers have the most horrendous tendancy to clip through the front of the car in a crash and end up permanently fused to the underbody. To an extent this has always been an issue with this game and wrap around bumpers, but I have to admit that it's particularly bad in the vivace. Especially in vehicle vs vehicle collisions. Try a low speed front to rear impact between two of them, you'll see what I mean.

 

Hello Developers, I have found a bug with the 4.5 V8 and 5.5 V8 in Gavril Roamer, D-Series, H-Series, and Grand Marshall. Whenever I put on any of the Superchargers (Stage 1 to 3), as soon as I shut off the Motor and start it again, the Motor cranks but does not fire. Can you have a look into this?

 

There is a speed limiter in the parts selection list (CTRL-W). You can remove it or exchange it for one of higher limit for some engines.

You cannot remove the speed limiter from the electric versions at the moment.


A surprising fact about real life is in fact that cars - for now - are not limited to maybe 15 - 25 km/h above the highest legal speed limit in their jurisdiction.

It is pretty odd that in a country where you are allowed a maximum of 110 km/h you can buy cars that go twice as fast even as are just leaving the shop.

Historically.... that made sense. The engine power required for something approaching acceptable - by today standards - acceleration values is much higher than required to reach 110/120/130 km/h.

Even the most crappy underpowered subcompact with glorious 45 HP manages well above 150 km/h.... air resistance being the main culprit for requiring more and more power for less and less top speed gains.

So in the past.... having a reasonable engine for your car automatically meant that it could go much faster than the legal speed limit. Not much you could do about it besides some easy to removable, fuel economy reducing and emissions increasing hardware parts.

Today however, you could easily programm the ECU to not tolerate further acceleration above a certain legal speed limit. While this still could be bypassed the effort required - and the resulting lack of plausible deniability - would make it far less enticing as you would face both harsh fines and a rather unpleasant bill from your insurance if caught.

Seing that almost all countries have a speed limit, you could even hard code an upper speed limit of lets say... 160 into a modern car. This would be even harder to bypass.

I would estimate that such a speed limiter will in the future be part of general car regulation as the reasoning for its lack in the past is no longer there.

Spoiler: Regarding "informative"

To the people who didnt use it the way it was intended:

Spoiler

"Like" is far less suited for a lot of informative posts, as is "agree". Like is emotional as in somebody personally likes what you have written. "Informative" had this clean neutrality to it and was just perfect for technical discussions.

Posts which I have given an informative rating to i recent times:

https://www.beamng.com/threads/why-do-the-drivetrains-have-torsion-bars.70474/#post-1159494

https://www.beamng.com/threads/0-19...e-before-reporting.69488/page-42#post-1159578

https://www.beamng.com/threads/0-19...e-before-reporting.69488/page-42#post-1159442

https://www.beamng.com/threads/why-do-the-drivetrains-have-torsion-bars.70474/#post-1159494

https://www.beamng.com/threads/cherrier-vivace-tograc.68111/page-56#post-1158860

https://www.beamng.com/threads/update-speculation-thread.20246/page-1195#post-1157927

https://www.beamng.com/threads/update-speculation-thread.20246/page-1195#post-1157861

https://www.beamng.com/threads/driving-train.70520/#post-1157630

https://www.beamng.com/threads/update-speculation-thread.20246/page-1194#post-1157300

https://www.beamng.com/threads/cherrier-vivace-tograc.68111/page-56#post-1157153

https://www.beamng.com/threads/update-speculation-thread.20246/page-1193#post-1156616

https://www.beamng.com/threads/physical-bodies-for-driveshafts-suspension-links.70430/#post-1156009

https://www.beamng.com/threads/american-road.50374/page-24#post-1156430

https://www.beamng.com/threads/cherrier-vivace-tograc.68111/page-55#post-1155792

https://www.beamng.com/threads/update-speculation-thread.20246/page-1190#post-1155461

https://www.beamng.com/threads/0-19...e-before-reporting.69488/page-42#post-1159578

A lot of those are far less suited for "Agree" or "Like".

You dont agree with technical information someone posts either. Nor do you like it.... they are not interchangable imho.