Is windows 7 becoming old?

If he likes it, that's his business.

It's his fricking opinion. For all I know, I could be the real "fool" here. I'm pretty sure he isn't because he seems like he has more knowledge then me about computers.

Got a quote for that?

Who cares? If he likes it. He can.

Okay, but he's allowed to enjoy it if he wants to.

Tbh, I don't know much about computers, but I know that people are allowed to have their own opinions.

Yes, I edited this.

 

If I could like and agree a post, I would

 

Windows 7 is more resource and energy-efficient than Windows 10. Just double click a folder, right click on a icon on desktop or hit F5(refresh) on desktop and you'll notice the difference.

 

I’d say so, but that doesn’t mean(in my opinion) that it sucks

 

LOL

 

yea windows 7 is poo poo.

this post was created by windows 10 gang

 

Have you got any source that Microsoft is sending data to a.... Russian mafia?

Yes, they are tracking you but saying data is being sent to a Russian mafia just makes you sound paranoid and doesn't boost your argument with such misleading information (unless you can prove yourself right.)

It's funny if you think that Windows 10 is the first Microsoft OS that has done tracking, and that you're safe and sound with Windows 7.
Plot twist, Windows 7 also has Microsoft telemetry which sends your data to Microsoft.
Yes there's software to "disable" windows 10 tracking like you suggested, but you suddenly trust those blindly?.. Also if you actually were researching this, you would know this isn't 100%

Something useful you could do would be to put up a firewall, and block certain traffic. It's nearly impossible to completely block such tracking, even on Windows 7 but it's as close as you get unless you completely block internet access.

Linux is your safest bet if you want an OS, that doesn't track you.

True, users are the biggest security vulnerability but downloading something as simple as a .WAV can get you infected. Even you just being on the same network as a infected user with a Windows 7 PC, it's enough for you to get it.
Leave your laptop out of sight, someone could plug in a bad usb and you could be infected by something even by not downloading anything.

 

This is informative and it sounds like something a uni professor would say. I will say this, I would rather have Google as my default browser then Microsoft Edge.

 

Modern Edge is now based on Chromium anyway, they're barely any different besides the UI.

A general rule of thumb is that if someone has physical access, consider the machine compromised. Even if your OS is locked down there's nothing stopping them from using another OS with your storage devices, or simply browing for passwords.

 

Informative, but people prefer different things.

 

EVERYONE CHECK YOUR USB PORTS

 

Lets start from the beginning and answer the question.

You can keep using Windows 7 years even after the whole support ended. Not receiving security patches does not mean you computer suddenly is getting viruses all of the sudden.
Browsers like Chrome and Firefox are still up to date with latest security changes.
And the firewall and antivirus (which they are still updated) are still there to keep you mostly safe.
The only thing you have to keep in mind is to not click on sketchy buttons and have some logic browsing on the Internet, but as I said, browsers have better protection so you shouldn't have really any problems.
Most games and apps still support Windows 7.

The moment you should consider updating your os is when you struggle to get a game or an application to work, or some programs or features begin to require a more recent version and you need these additional features.

You can still upgrade for free to Windows 10 (if you have an original Windows 7 license). You can try it and go back if you have issues with it.

If the issues are mostly performance and stability, you can try Windows 8.1
Just install Start8 if you can't get used to the Start Screen and the rest os the os is just like Windows 7.
In my experience with Windows 8, its way more polished, stable and reliable. Even more than Windows 7. Most of the critics are because of the Start Screen, but aside from that, its just fine.
Heck even I considered going back to Windows 8 but there are some games that only work on Windows 10, and Windows 8s activation message is way more annoying because it fills the whole screen every couple of hours.

I saw Linux gaming also improved a lot these times but still not quite 100% yet, you can still try.

The whole controversy with Windows 10 its because of the telemetry, mostly because almost all of the people and testers who worked for Windows got fired. That's why the quality of the os went really downhill and now they rely heavily on our data to make changes and fix problems. So basically we are the testers and I am not really a fan of that.
But telemetry is everywhere, in the ISP, Android, Internet, services, etc... and thats not a thing we can really escape from.
And then they blame Windows 10 more, when your smartphone which has Android owned by Google and forces you to use a Google Account and basically you have your WHOLE LIFE on it, you trust it more than Microsoft. I don't know what do you do with your PCs that is so, suspicious? But ok.

Alright, I might went a little bit off of the topic from reading all of this thread discussion (and no, I don't think nobody works or is getting paid, they are just opinions, I really hate these type of assumptions).

So making it clear, you can still use Windows 7 until you can't anymore basically. Thanks.

 

I didnt mean to start a flame war nor did I mean to belittle other peoples opinion. If it was received that way, I am sorry.

I should have worded it more clearly. The - admittedly provocant - thesis was that if you keep using Win 7 there is an increased risk of your privacy/data being violated by malware and as such ends up in the hand of the "russian mafia". Meanwhile if you use Win 10, you are slightly more secure against malware stealing your data but as a trade off you get Microsoft violating your privacy by design so if you actually care about your privacy, it is a choice between two evils.

Windows 7 telemetry was a later addon..... it is magnitudes lower than Win 10 telemetry because win 10 was basically designed with telemetry and data selling in mind. Which from a business standpoints makes sense.... Microsoft is full of envy of googles data driven business model and the money it prints. So how do you get access to a similar amount of valuable data? By making data collection a mandatory hard to escape feature of a monopol operating system of course. Yes, some computer savy users like me can avoid or outright disable it, but the money and lies in the numbers of countless casual computer users basically are completly defenseless against it.

Win 10s "online features" are not there primarily for your benefit.... they are there to collect data about you because that data is highly valuable. Only from this perspective a lot of design choices begin to make sense..... it is all about you being tracked as much as possible. Nobody asked for such deep integration of online features into a desktop operating system..... guess why it is there?

The list of people and organisations that I trust blindly is a very short one. But I trust "O&Os Shut Up 10" more than M$ because quite frankly, ALL those setting should be right inside the integrated system control panel. But they arent..... because MS actually doesnt not believe that your data and privacy should be your own. If Windows would respect your privacy... one would not need third party software to stop the worst of spying they can get away with without getting sued... much. Telemetry can be very useful if used benevolently but allowing it also requires a very significant amount of trust that I simple cannot justify for M$ for both past and current business practises. Not to mention that as an american company, all your data belongs to NSA or any other US goverment agency. Yes, even if it is hosted on a server in europe.... the american cloud act says so and I promise you.... if given the choice between the ire of the US goverment or any european one.... any US based or owned company will obey the US law and not the EU one.

Nothing is 100 %. But that doesnt mean you should not disable most of windows 10 dubious functions if you can.

Blocking traffic works to an extent but as any computer savy person can tell you.... there is no software running in an OS that can fully control the OS. It simple doesnt work... because the OS is basically god. That is precisly what makes regular malware rootkits so dangerous.... you cant delete "virus.exe" if the OS doesnt tell you it is there in the first place. Similarly... if the OS wanted to hide some network traffic from your firewall... it could do so. Note that network traffic isnt the issue..... as you can actually track it by external means and as such MS has to stay pretty clean in this regard as it would be detectable. Interestingly, telemetry traffic is encypted.

Yes, Linux get rid of all those issues by having no motive for doing so in the first place. The idea that your system is yours should be natural to any user honestly..... you are paying for both the hardware and the power..... why should you allow it to act against your wishes and interests? If it wants telemetry... it should ask for permission and if it doesnt get it... well... you will have to debug the old way.


Yes, there are always risks connecting to any network or any external data storage device.


It should be noted, that when I speak about "your data and your privacy" that - at least in general - nobody is interested in your particular data set. On its own, it is pretty low value.... but tracking 100000 or even millions of people... creates a very valuable database that you can turn into lots of money.

Google is one of the most valuable companies of the world for little more than the ability of targeted advertising. The knowledge which 10000 people out of a population of 100000 are most likely to react positively (= buy) to an ad about a new energy drink is highly valuable.

 

It’s fine man, we all do that sometime or another

 

This is leeching. Since collecting data and turn them to money does not positively "creates" contribution, unlike manufacturing goods or building infrastructure. For example you build a car or a PC you contribute in the development of humanity, the "net gain" of humanity is positive. Leeching data does not contribute, thus energy/mass conservation laws applies, turn them into money is actually decreases the well-being and life quality of the users, just like stealing others' property. If someone steals your money your life quality will decrease. If you extract data from others and turn them into money, they will suffer as if you steal the same amount of money from them, and since processing data cost time and money, the "net gain" of humanity is negative. Leeching data is subtle so most of the victims are unaware of the loss, unlike theft.

 

how does building a PC from parts that were made to fit together or bolting an existing made to fit set of coilovers/turbo kit/wheels/etc onto your car, contribute to society?
(if you fabricated the parts, sure, but i don't see much of that, especially in the PC world...)

 

I'm terrible at explaining, sorry.

 

Windows 7 is very good,and WiNdOwS 10 is terrible,only updates,useless alerts,it can update it while playing a game,it can annoy the player who wants to play but computer needs update because WiNdOwS 10.
Windows 10 is the worst Windows system ever maked,i don't care what people say,i hate it.

 

This is the most 100% true post I have ever seen haha.

also, if your PC came with windows 7 or 8 you can still install Windows 10 for free.

 

IMO... and only MO... The developers' main objective is to optimize the game with each update, to make it run better on Windows 10. Therefore, it stands to reason, that that'll make it that much less user friendly for Windows 7 (eventually... if not already). I still use my Windows 7 computer to respond to emails, and forum posts-- like this one-- as I type on my Windows 7 computer at this exact moment. But when it's time to fire up the game, I turn off the 7, and on comes the 10. And there I go.
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