Fluid Drive for Burnside Special

Discussion in 'Ideas and Suggestions' started by SlowCreepyDeepy, Sep 18, 2020.

  1. SlowCreepyDeepy

    SlowCreepyDeepy
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    The Suggestion

    Basically, I am suggesting a new type of transmission for application in the Burnside Special, or perhaps in some other car (although I do think it would make loads of sense in the Burnside given what it seems to be based off of). For anybody who does not know what Fluid Drive is (or was), it was a system developed by Chrysler in the 1940s, where the idea was more or less to take a standard three-speed manual transmission, but replace the flywheel on the engine with a fluid coupling. On most cars equipped with the system, this was only a simple fluid coupling, containing an impeller and a turbine and nothing else, which basically functioned like a torque converter, except without any torque multiplication. Later versions of the fluid drive system, found on higher-end cars from the line up, such as DeSotos, featured a true torque converter with an impeller, turbine, and stator. These were often paired with Chrysler's semi-automatic transmission.


    The Background

    The theory behind the system was essentially to prevent manual transmissions equipped with it from stalling when the car was standing still without the clutch depressed. Indeed, this worked, and the driver could stop the car with their foot on the brake and not on the clutch. The system even allowed for the car to start moving in any gear, although starting in first from a standstill was still best. It is worth noting, however, that while the system had some potential advantages, in many cases, it was also somewhat sluggish. My grandmother owned an old Dodge equipped with the system that she bought used back in the 1970s, and she described it as having all the sloppiness and slushiness of early automatic transmissions, but without the convenience of not having to change gears manually. All told, the system was a mixed bag, particularly in the case of earlier designs with no torque multiplication.


    The Justification

    I believe that some sort of Fluid Drive system would be a good addition to the game because it was an interesting system fitted to many cars in the late 1940s and early 1950s by Chrysler, and given that the Burnside is largely based off of an old DeSoto, a Fluid Drive option for it would make sense. I do not necessarily picture any semi-automatic transmission being offered with this, having only the three-speed manual and fluid coupling. While this may be unrealistic or simply not possible with the powertrain system (I simply do not have much technical knowledge of how the system works, so I cannot be sure), if it is possible, I think that it would suit the Burnside perfectly, possibly filling a space between the base model with the three-speed manual and the Dualmatic model.


    I hope that I have sufficiently explained my idea and why I think it would be a good addition to the game.
     
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  2. combatwombat96

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    they called it the Hy-drive in case you were wondering, the reasoning behind that is as you said; the ability to take of from a stop in third gear. Now i most certainly agree with you but i believe it'll just be one of those things that constantly goes out of date whenever an update happens for something in the driveline or transmission, look what happened to the Auriga Heron, it went out dated because of its complicated setup of a non-sycromeshed gearbox. It'll just be a pain to constantly fix and for something that most people wouldn't even use is just no point
     
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