Bit disappointed in the D-Series Facelifts

So I've been playing around with the new update. While I do like the most of changes and new additions, I'm a bit disappointed in the new D-Series Remasters.
While there are new interiors and some minor visual changes, the 1998-2003 D-Series is virtually identical to the 1986 and 1992 D-Series in pretty much every way except the front fascia.

Here is a video that shows an evolution of the F150

Starting with the 1987 F150 which is built on the typical boxy square body that was common in that time, as the years go by, the body of the truck becomes curved and rounded and the aesthetics and styling of the entire truck gets updated.

AR162B's Oldstyle D-Series addon mod is basically an example of what I was hoping for in the remasters. The Oldstyle not only has a different fascia when compared to the more modern D-Series, but also a different body, trim, handles, etc.
https://www.beamng.com/resources/gavril-d-series-addon-by-ar162b.11002/

With these D-Series remasters, I was expecting the changes to be a bit more substantial, similar to the evolution shown in the video and what was seen in AR162B's mod. Instead the only noticeable difference between the 1986/1992 and 1998-2003 D-Series is the front fascia.

 

Well, the new content is part of a much bigger remaster, all for the D-series, and it did add things like completely new interior, new engine parts, new body panels, and new door panels.

 

I'm sure there's only but so much they can do to it before it basically becomes the same amount of work as creating a whole new vehicle.

 

Be happy from what we have

 

IMO that is a really unhealthy attitude to have. This is a forum, a place for discussion. Not everything about the game has to be perfect. If we just blindly praise everything they put out then that praise becomes meaningless. Valid criticism ought to be discussed and praise ought to be well deserved. And there is plenty that the team deserves praise for.

That being said, I can't say I fully agree with this criticism, though there are aspects of it I do agree with. And that's coming from someone who constantly asks for a ton of content additions.

First off, the contemporary F-Series trucks actually saw similar updates to the Gavril D-Series. 1980-1997 they were more or less the same frame, cab, and bed, with only the firewall forward and interior being changed. The 1972-1993 Dodge D-Series and 1973-1991 Chevy C/K got even less significant changes during those years. So to an extent, it is realistic to only see minor changes/a new fascia/new interior.

By 1997 Ford had realized that trucks were being daily driven opposed to use purely as work trucks, hence the transition to the modern bodywork and separation of the 150 from the superduty. Combine this with the existance of the Roamer, which really should be the body style being used, and I admit it does become a bit of a strange situation. I don't think pushing the model year up to 2003 is that bad, and being that the Roamer has been in game for so long the team doesn't really have a choice but to work around it; it would be an unreasonable amount of work to make sufficient changes to make it a Bruckell or something like that. It's fine, even if not ideal.

I have been rather outspoken about my opinion of more significant changes for the some configs (luxury interior for the Kentarch and Chief Rancher, new doors/hood/accessories for the pre-facelift, generally more engine options, etc...) but I don't see a need for anything as significant as suggested here.

TLDR: They are just a facelift, not an entirely new generation. So it's not unrealistic, even if it results in a few quirks here and there

 

"Don't hope for improvements."

 

Well, I agree, but also not. The first sign of D-Series expansion update was in March. I don`t like how someone says: ''This is disappointing'' No I don`t like answers like these. I dunno, that`s just talking from a huge fan of D-Series. Also, just cutting discussion as I did is bad. i can also just simply shut up, i can do that.

I didn`t mean: ''it should be over with new stuff for D-Series''. No, It would be cool if (somehow) devs decided to add something more. I think D-Series has enough stuff:
Drag Pickup- check
Ambulance-Check
Street tuned- check
Prerunner-check
Tow truck-check
Derby truck-check etc.

 

I reluctantly agree with OP. Don't get me wrong, the devs are wonderful people who work very, very hard. I owe my interest in PC gaming to them, and I've gotten way more that $15 worth of fun out of the game since I bought it.
The D-series' and Roamer's facelifts don't make much sense, though, and I hate to say that. The new late-90s D-series and roamer are equivalent to putting the 1996 Pessima's headlights, taillights, interior and engine onto the 1989 Pessima's body.
It's just sort of weird how fascias from the early 2000s are being strapped onto bodies from the late '80s.

Apologies, it appears that IRL trucks from the mid-late '80s to mid '90s really did remain unchanged for all of that time, my bad. It strikes me as odd but it isn't unrealistic.

 

One thing. You showed evolution of Ford, where for example GMC and Chevy trucks were still boxy with more rounded edges - thats all. There is no unified style choice. Styles are mixing all the time and you can't put finger on timeline and said "now everything from that point is roundy without exceptions". On one hand you have "roundy" and "bubbly" styles like Ford or Dodge, where in other you have "modified" style that still looks boxy like GMC Sierra. Someone posted horrible facelift of real car that has 2010 facia on 1980 body.

And finally - this is a facelift, not a new gen.

 

Well... remember guys...

A. This isn't a real truck... so they don't have to follow real design patterns if they don't wish to...
B. Even if it was... it might just not be following the design language of Ford and Dodge...

Behold...

The square Chevys
67-72


73-91


88-00 (yeah, they ran the 3rd and 4th gens at the same time... no I don't know why)


00-07


06-13


13-19


18-now


Was a box, is still a slightly rounder box, shall always be a box...

Long live the box...

 

I honestly wish they had less configs for the handful of gens and more gens. I'd love a 70's style pickup. Maybe a 50's-60's one too.
Holy crap! There's a whopping 162 slightly different configurations for the D series all across the 2.5 generations. And considering the biggest stylistic difference is a front grill/headlight combo it could use some slimming. Or at the very least a better UI sorting method. Like, picking "Manufacturer," model, then maybe model years or something. I don't even know what the default truck is, and good luck finding it.

 

the difference i think i should point out is, the 1987 F150 is using exactly the same body as the 1980 F150, just with a different fascia. it's the same time frame, just shifted forward 5 years.

 

It's true that the F150 and alot of American pickups during the 1980s and early to mid 90s changed very little during this time period. I can accept that the 1986/1992 D-Series would stay mostly the same (with an updated fascia) as alot of real world pickup trucks underwent a similar process. However, I was hoping that by the late 90s, the 1998 D-Series would get a new updated body. I just find it a bit odd the 1998/late 90s D-Series would continue to use the same old body with very little alterations.

 

It's just the changes Ford did to their truck but pushed back 6 years. It is a bit late considering this was a changing point for the segment, but not really enough to fuss over IMO

 

Theres an absolute sh*t ton of stuff for the D-series, not sure how anyone can be disappointed by that. I second the opinion 'be happy with what we have' cause its not in any way a small amount of content for one vehicle alone IMO. That combined with all the other stuff in the update, whereas other games would just release DLC vehicles to keep ppl playing for a bit, we get major changes in plenty of areas.

 

My main complaint is mainly to do with the facelifts of the 1998-2003 D-Series. I like the extra configs that were added to the game. Sorry, I should have been more specific.

 

Now that I think of it, the bed on the late models doesn't fit the front. It's a bit too boxy imo, but it works for now.

 

That was my original complaint with it. I wouldn't say I've grown completely use to it, but it isn't as jarring as it was for me in the twitter teaser at least

 

What surprises me is that the Roamer was around for three more years. I get it why Gavril would keep the truck around for so long - maybe they were out of cash, considering how long the old I6 stayed - but so poor that they couldn't make a new SUV for three years?

Did the BeamNG world SUV market collapse in the meantime? Or did it get replaced with really big crossovers?

 

or perhaps since the D series was architecturally 7 years older they just decided to replace it first?